From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #195 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 25 April 2000 Vol 07 : Num 195 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #194 eskrima: Bisio Seminar eskrima: Re:Stick lenght and training eskrima: Your lucky to be my instructor eskrima: Riding Shotgun eskrima: Where should I send it? eskrima: old dog no tricks eskrima: looking for an old instructor [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Saturbo@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:52:13 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #194 The book by Wiley is actually a second edition to his previous book on Angel Cabales and the Cabales Serrada Escrima system. That should be a good read, especially considering the fact that this time around, he got the collaboration of a significant number of Angel's former students. During the photo shoot, there was a huge contingent of eskrimadors in the gym where the photos were shot. I pretty much was in awe, and very impressed by the company I was in. At one point, there were 9 of the 16 Serrada masters there. Mark had mentioned that there was going to be a chapter featuring essays by Angel's former students about their experiences with Angel, their training, etc. Myself, I am really look forward to this book. ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:54:16 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Bisio Seminar I talked to Tom Bisio the other day about bringing him in for a San Miguel and maybe Pau Gua seminar in Detroit, I believe the Balintawak people should be interested in this as San Miguel is the art that Momoy says most resembles what Yolang Canette, Anciong Bacon and he himself had learned from the Saavedrra brothers when they were younger. So if anyone ( and who in their right mind wounld't be ) interested in attending a seminar in the area with Tom Biso, please E-mail me privately, so I can get this rolling. It is my intention if Tom will have me as a student, to study San Miguel under him. Rocky ------------------------------ From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:45:27 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re:Stick lenght and training Saturno, I don't agree on this one, FMA is designed to be fit in any situation and weapon is also design that way. We used 28 to 30 inches stick length in the Garimot System. In my experience, I found out that stick length is not the issue in Stick fighting. The techniques and execution is. The weapons should be applicable in any ranges as long you adjust your self accordingly not the weapon. For example If I were fighting in long range and I am using 28 inches long stick when I move in to close range do I need a to change shorter weapon or stick? I think "NOT," instead applied different techniques accordingly. (Such as footwork's, punyo, fist, elbow, small circle abaniko, locks and controls, etc.). Again I can only speak on behalf based on the theory of Garimot System and my pass experience in competition against others style of Arnis Escrima. I believed when we train, we should practice techniques that's will be applicable, or feasible to be used in any combat ranges, instead of choosing length and sizes of the stick in different range. I hope this will help a bit to the answer that you are looking about the stick length. Gumagalang/with respect, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Saturno wrote: << There is no such thing as a "one length fits all" solution. The right stick for the right job is the idea. >> ------------------------------ From: Rocky Pasiwk Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:06:45 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Your lucky to be my instructor Since its been a little slow, and we all know how the Grand Poohbah hates that, I figured I'd post a little something that has been bugging me lately. Is it me or has the attitude of martial arts over the last 10 years or so real gone down hill. I was talking with an individual ( who trains ) and told him I was hoping to be able to train with Tom Bisio in San Miguel and maybe an internal art. When I told the guy that I might have to drive/fly from Detroit to NYC once or twice a month, he thought I was crazy and that for the money he should come here. This is something that has bothered me for awhile. Now everyone knows I am a little slow, and may have been hit too many times. But when did it start to become a privilege for the instructor to teach a student. I remember driving from Detroit to Philadelphia just to train with Remy for 3 hours. And traveling 400 miles to attend an Inosanto or a Jay or Demile or Wallace seminar. My Wing Chun Do instructor was 43 miles one way and when I was 15 and too young to drive on a half a dozen different occasions when he had a special Saturday class I actually road my 10 speed their and my mother picked me up in the evening when she got home. I boxed out of a club that smelled like sweat, dead rats and raw sewage. When I first started training with GM Buot I trained when ever he had time. Call me crazy but it just seems that now a days people think its the instructors job to fit you into his schedule or treat you with kid gloves I have heard people on the list say things like my instructor never ever hurt me in all the years of training. WOW either your really good or he didn't like you!! I have had to soak my hands after some sessions with GM Remy Presas, because of our closeness he trained me much harder than the norm, as did several others including my father, I actually had a gym teacher in 8th grade try to accuse my father of abusing me because of the bruises I would get from playing with him, its part of training. If you have never been molywhoped here and there how will you know how you will react when its for real. Along time ago Remy told me I was born at the wrong time. He said that more and more you don't give the student what he needs, rather you give him what he wants, its the price you pay for capitalism ( still the greatest system in the world ). He also said something that more and more people have told me over the years, and that is not to give away your instruction for free, because this is America and we are a society that relies on commerce, if a person doesn't pay for it they don't appreciate it. More and more I am starting to believe this. I realize we all work and have families, and times are different. But if you want to train, then you have to do everything in your power to accommodate your instructor, and most instructors will do their best to be flexible with you once you show some loyalty to them. Like they say if there is a will there is a way. I guess maybe I am old fashion, or getting old before my time or something, I can't figure it out. Maybe I am just on a rant, but I have to believe that others out their have had to have the same feeling. If anyone has figured out how to change the declining attitude that people seem to have towards people with knowledge to offer please post it. And please don't take this post as me believing that you should worship the ground your instructor walks on I think everyone knows me well enough to know that I don't idolize anyone, but respect and worship is two totally different things. I respect anyone with ability and knowledge, I worship nobody. Well maybe Gillian Anderson and Christina Applegate :-) if they'd let me. And of course Crafty is still my hero ( ya big lug ). Any ways just some food for thought Rocky ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:57:29 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Riding Shotgun A few weeks ago someone asked about methods for riding shotgun for a relative who was making night deposits at a bank and wanted some advice. Notice the term is riding "shotgun" not riding "bolo." You don't want to be in the undesirable position of bringing a knife to a gunfight, especially a fight in which your opponent chooses the time and place and initiates the action. Nort do you want to go to jail to protect a few days deposits. Even if you were an armed law enforcement officer my advice would be don't put yourself in the same vehicle as the protectee, if have no choice and have to do this by yourself. Take a second vehicle and escort the protectee's car, following by half a block. Make sure you vary your route and departure time to the bank and premap your escape routes to the nearest areas of safety. Your best weapon will be a cell phone. If you see a car following the protectee, call 911, report what you see and the route you are on. Give a brief description of the protectee's and chase car (just manufacturer and color) and manufacturer, color and plates of the suspect vehicle. Talk to detectives assigned to the robbery squad in your area and tell them you will be escorting your relative to the bank and that you plan on calling 911 if you are being followed. You would be better off with at least three guards and two cars. One driver for the protectee and two guards in the chase car. Numbers would be your best preventive measure. Seeing a team of 4 men in two vehicles would deter the majority of street thugs. Some municipalities allow officers when off duty to work second jobs doing precisely what you need done. If you you can only hire cops for one trip, do so and pick their brains for specific ideas about your area. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:19:00 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Where should I send it? Woof Rocky: The T-shirt is yours! Where do you want it sent and what size, color, etc -- check out our catalog page for the options. Woof, Crafty ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:22:10 -0700 Subject: eskrima: old dog no tricks A Howl etc: The Gathering approaches and I won't be fighting. This feels very weird Woof, Crafty Dog of the drooping tail , , , ------------------------------ From: i-said-so@webtv.net Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: looking for an old instructor Dear Friends of Filipino Martial Arts, I am searching for an old instructor of mine. His name is Eddie Lastra, and he taught Arnis in Vallejo CA, and for a short time in Davis CA. His system comprised of two family systems, the Soriano and Sayas systems. The sounds of the sticks constantly call me back, and I am anxious to return back to my art! If anyone has any information that will lead me back to my art, it would greatly be appreciated if you would drop me a line. Thanx! ben alban jr ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:00:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #195 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.