From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #201 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 27 April 2000 Vol 07 : Num 201 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 eskrima: Re: Questions about Inayan eskrima: Stick sale eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 eskrima: Digest T-Shirts? eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #199 eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:37:01 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 Gary, here are the Tagalog point of View in regards of the confusing FMA Dojo Terminology. In term of "Tagalog" equivalent to a "Dojo" is Paaralan(School) Silid Aralan, Silid Sanayan, at Silid Turuan (Study Room). In deep Tagalog term probably even among Filipino get confused to this words like "Bahay Hasaan, Sunugan ng Kilay, Silid Dalubhasaan, Silid Dunongan, Silid Turuan all of this means the same as Study Room or School. I agree with Master Nate Defensor is 88 dialect to choose from so its is depend on the Instructor founder what he wants to call his School, if he is Visayan he might call it Visayan term. Well on my School since I am from Tagalog Region our place are called P-aaralan ng A-rnis E-stokada at T-radisyunal E-skrima P.A.E.T.E. (School of Arnis Estocada and Traditional Escrima) FMA Garimot System International. Hoping help you a bit, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation << >>Okay, I to fall into the trap sometimes of refering to >>a training hall as a dojo. What is the equivalent >>of "dojo" in Filipino Martial art terms? Dear Gary, There are over 88 dialects in the Philippine Archipelago. You probably cannot get all the dialects to agree on one term. In response to this, >> ------------------------------ From: Steve Klement Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:48:37 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Questions about Inayan Hi Richard - You asked what I thought at first was a very straight forward easy to answer question and then I started thinking :) Your question, Did the Inayan Largo Mano style come from Angel (GM Cabales) and the Serrada system? Well, my first answer is, no. It developed out of Suro's understanding of the basic concepts of a great Largo Mano system that Suro was exposed to about 20 years ago or so. Suro took that knowledge of the basic concepts and for the next 5 or 10 years developed the Inayan Largo Mano style. My second answer to your question is, a little. The reason I say this is because of the obvious influence Serrada had on developing the Inayan Largo Mano. Suro wanted the Inayan Largo Mano style to be complete in a way that it could beat (in the right hands) a Serrada player. By pushing the Serrada in us that much further he knew that our Serrada would only become that much stronger for knowing first hand how to deal with the long weapon. And so it's a learning circle. That is why the Inayan System of Eskrima works so well. It does so by teaching us that no one style is necessarily better than another and that we can use one to strengthen another. By learning more of a style that you may not even like you can better your understanding of it and therefore all its possible weaknesses which makes your more favored style that much more powerful. I would also like to add that Kim Satterfield's last post was a very good summary of Inayan Eskrima as well! You also asked how GM Cabales dealt with or against an opponent with a larger weapon. You are exactly right, he would close. There is a story that Suro has told his students of an event that happened once at GM Cabales school... it goes something like this.... One time a SCA (he used a BIG stick) player came into GM Cabales school to challenge anyone to spar with him. GM said =B3I will take care of it=B2 and started sparring with the visitor ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Stick sale "Today only Special: My rattan sticks are $20 each and $5 shipping per stick." Let's do a study then, see which day you sell more ;) Tomorrow only Special: All sticks are $3.50 each and S&H included. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 >>Hey, just a little FMA historical trivia. On April 27th, 1521, the >>conquistador Ferdinand Magellen(sp?) was killed in battle in the >>Philippines by Datu Lapu Lapu and his boys. Whoohoo, go pinoys!! Kalani, remember all those days of Datu asking us these questions at the elementary school?;) ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online and get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: KRobb97471@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:21:19 EDT Subject: eskrima: Digest T-Shirts? What became of the notion of T-shirts for the digest? It seemed there was interest. Robert ------------------------------ From: "arlan and angel sanford" Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:33:01 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #199 I think the key point in the stick length post was that all other things equal, a longer stick will dominate because of reach and leverage. A better fighter is a better fighter, whatever length. I haven't fought anyone with a short stick and fighters at the gatherings are free to use any length they want. When it comes down to it, nobody wants to be the guy with the short stick. I carry a 20" stick in my car, heavy, but easy to get out from under the seat. Would I like to carry a bigger one? Of course, but it doesn't work in the car. I know some people are more comfortable with a short stick, and that's great. But for me, if I have six inches reach on the other guy, I'll make him pay. The point was brought up about longer legs and arms, yes it makes a difference, notice that reach is one of the bits of info given about fighters. Arlan ------------------------------ From: "Steven C. Drape" Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #200 >IMHO on the "my instructor never hurt me" thread: > >In my limited experience, many (if not all) instructors, and in >particular the exceptional ones, will go to great lengths to prevent >students' injuries. Whenever I get any new students who feel a bit afraid of the sticks, I always tell them that it will be them who hurt me, not the other way around. Nearly all my nicks, dings and scratches have come from new students, not from any of my instructors. In our school, we also have a rule about accidental hits. The rule states that: "There is no saying "I'm sorry" in the school, because everyone knows that you shouldn't be trying to hurt anyone else, so of course the contact was unintentional. If the instructor feels that there might have been in any way something intentional in the "accident", then paybacks are an available option. Again, no need for "I'm sorry". If you want to dish it out, then be prepared to take it. Steve ____________________________________________ Service Brought To You By http://WWW.DWP.NET ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:17:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #201 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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