To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #204 Sender: owner-eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 28 April 2000 Vol 07 : Num 204 In this issue: eskrima: Long Stick eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #202 eskrima: Re: stick length, mine's bigger than yours.... eskrima: A Tale of Two Stories eskrima: DBMA group class eskrima: Re: long vs. short ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bladewerks@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:55:22 EDT Subject: eskrima: Long Stick For what its worth my 2cents worth is the same...All my training exp. tells me that a longer stick has many advantages.Not that a shorter stick in incabable,just that in the hands of two skilled fighters the longer will generally come out on top.This will even ring more true when there is minimal or no protection,hands being the primary target. A shorter stick will have to close in order to play his game.This could fall right into the game of the Largo stick player if he knows hao to back peddle and hit at the same time and his timing is good. Just my 2 cents Barry ------------------------------ From: MdlAgdLftr@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:00:48 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #202 In a message dated 4/28/00 7:06:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Perhaps this is when Steve is right since even the short thin Serrada stick is better than the hair on my head or skin on my knucles. >> Not sure what Serrada you have seen there, Doc, but mine are 1 1/4" thick, and very heavy rattan. You see, there is a misconception out there that we Serrada people play with thin, wispy sticks. Huh-uh, nothing could be further from the truth, my friends. Our sticks are every bit as thick and dense as anybody else's, just shorter to better suit the range we function in. We frequently use such woods as ebony, bahi, and kamagong in play, too, so don't mistake that we use wimpy weapons. The extra weight of our sticks is necessary, too, in that we emphasize hard, heavy hitting, and a thin stick would never hold up to our everyday training. Just an observation, Kim Satterfield ------------------------------ From: MdlAgdLftr@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:26:42 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: stick length, mine's bigger than yours.... Hi all, I think, as many astute players here have shown, that size is relative, and you should use what is comfortable and proven for you. In Serrada, we train specifically on using the shorter weapon, hence the name "Serrada"...Sp., for "to close." We have specific methodology for encountering the longer weapon, and how to capitalize on the advantages we feel the shorter stick presents, as I am sure the folks who function more in the Larga range do in relation to their own weapon. I know I am not anxious, (without a lot of preparation) to get in the ring with a Dog Bros., and this isn't based on weapon length, it's based on a healthy respect for their experience. In the end, we are all on the same path (a favorite expression of mine is that we are all "fruit of the same tree"), and we have so much to offer each other that we need to take full advantage of threads such as this. In this day of open communication, it is really enjoyable to be able to exchange opinions with so many talented and knowledgeable players. Thanks to all for their contributions...I know I am richer for the forum provided here. Kim ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:33:37 -0700 Subject: eskrima: A Tale of Two Stories A Howl of Greeting to All: A Tale of Two Stories: Story One: Two days ago. An apt. building on the beach in Redondo Beach. Safe area. Front door of one apt left open while the fiance goes to do the laundry down the hall. Hot Dog on the can. Two guys putting flyers on front doors about a Thai restaurant. One (later described as a "stocky 180lbs") sees the open door, decides to go for crime of opportunity and enters the apt. Goes all the way in to the kitchen, where he is spotted by Hot Dog (6'4" and 245lbs) who has just finished matters. Stocky splits PDQ with Hot Dog in pursuit and with his buddy makes it into the elevator at the end of the hall, with Hot Dog the avenging angel in hot pursuit. As the buddy cowers, HD blocks the door, puts the guys head through the elevator wall and lays in 4-5 serious thrust kicks as the guy crumples down the wall to the floor and leaves him there. HD finds the flyers, calls the restaurant, guy is fired. HD is greeted with general acclaim by one and all at BJJ the next morning, including several local LEOs. Pretty Cool! Story Two: From the "Daily Breeze", the local newspaper. "A reputed San Pedro gang member was arrested Wednesday in the kiling of a man who was slain after he stepped to the defense of a woman. FEU, 20, , , , is suspected of killing MA, 21, outside a 7-11 , , , early Saturday. MA and five friends, including two women- stopped at the store at 1:20AM on their way to Cabrillo Beach. As they entered the store they crossed paths with FEU and another man exiting. LA Detective Jones said, "The suspects were apparently attempting to have some uninvited conversation with the girls and the victim stepped to their defense." Jones said a derogatory term was used to describe the women and one of the men departing the store asked where the group was from. The victim said "We don't bang." One of the men then pulled a gun and threatened MA. As the men drove out of the parking lot, he fired at the group, killing MA. Jones would not say what led police to FEU, but he did say a portion of the crime was recorded on the surveillance tape." Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:43:03 -0700 Subject: eskrima: DBMA group class A Howl etc: Sorry for the last minute notice, but the next meeting of my DBMA class at the Machado BJJ school in Torrance will be in mid-June. There's the Gathering next week, the European tour etc. Cindy promises to have the details on the seminar up on our website's seminar page anyday now. Briefly, it is May 20-21 for Krishna Godhania, (in Birmingham I think,) May 27-28 in Alicante, Spain for Alfonso Acosta Gil, and June 3-4 somewhere near Dusseldorf, Germany for Alfred Plath. The seminar in Spain will be given in Spanish and I will be staying there various days before and after with my Cindy & Conrad on holiday and be doing some teaching as well. Again, details on the seminar page anyday now. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: BigBaddVolk@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:49:22 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: long vs. short Howdy folks, It's been a long time since I've posted, under any name. On the long v. short, everyone has pretty much agreed that it depends on the person and how well they understand the short and the long. Being a serrada person, obviously I'm partial to the short. However, I have worked a bit with the longer sticks, including jo and bo sticks, to get a feeling of variety with my serrada. If you know how, nearly any style can be adapted and it comes down to the more skilled person. And lets face it, very seldom are there any fights, outside of training, between equal skilled people. The big guys are always going to have a certain advantage for size, but then the little guy has most likely had more practice against big guys. The big guy on the other hand may not have ever gone against that smaller size of a opponent before and might not be ready for what the little guy could do. So to wrap this up, it comes more down to skill and experience than to stick size. The person with more of both has the advantage. Size of the guy matters, but the size of his stick doesn't. (Freud would have a field day with us.) Good training. Eric ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #204 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.