From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #209 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 1 May 2000 Vol 07 : Num 209 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #208 eskrima: Re:Eye ball on the check / style vs. style eskrima: Stick density questions eskrima: Fwd: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #204--if you say you know it, at (fwd) eskrima: Lennox's day eskrima: Re: context, please eskrima: Re: Sparring frequency and importance [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AKRKali@aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:55:04 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #208 In a message dated 4/30/00 6:08:24 PM Central Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << www.shoponthenet.com/Inayan >> Just wanted to tell everyone I have enjoyed all your comments. I am signing off until I arrive in Okinawa Japan. I teach Kali and if any of you know of anyone wanting to train on Okinawa, please connect us. My name is Dave Hendrick, I am in the Air Force and will be on Okinawa for 3 years. I will arrive 13 May. My system is AKR Kali, I have a 6th degree background in Okinawan Karate. I have been involve with Kali/Escrima/Arnis for the past 8 years. If anyone is interested in training with me just ask for "Chief Dave Hendrick, USAF" I am not sure what Internet provider I will have there. But try AKRKALI@aol.com or AKRKALI hot mail. Your friend in the martial arts, Dave Hendrick ------------------------------ From: "Gary A. Hudgins" Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:26:41 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re:Eye ball on the check / style vs. style Some one asked about > I > > Ray wrote: > > > Have you seen how someone really does react when their eyeball is down on > > their cheek? They do not retaliate with a new level of force, the fight is > > over and they are looking for their mommy or at least the nearest emergency > > room. > > > > Furthermore, and much more important to my original post, I have my doubts > about the ease with which an eye can be removed. If, as you wrote, it wound > up "down on their cheek" the fight might very well end, but is it as easy as > Steven Segal makes it look? Any doctors out there? > > Jerry > - ------------------------------ > I am not a doctor, and I can not vouch for the authenticity of the information I am about to give. Just somewhere in my training, or hearing old war stories, I heard that if you want to pop out an eye ball you do not try to go in from the nose side. For some reason the structure of the eye is not conductive to its removal from this angle. If you want to pop it out, you do so from the check side. Again, I can't even tell you where I heard this or if it is true. I certainly have not experimented with it. Anyother thoughts. A second note on size, experience, training, etc. Some times it is the unexpected (hell a lot of times it is the unexpected) that defeats you. Advincula, a karate stylist and escrima stylist was challenged to a friendly match by a fencer. Fencer vs. Escrima. Advincula agreed. As the match began, Advincula grabed the fencing sword by the blade with his live hand and then proceeded to use his escrima "sword" (stick) announcing to the challenger, "you're dead". The fencer immediately requested a rematch. Advincula refused. "How can you fight me again, you're dead!" The fencer never expected Advincula to grab his blade. That is just not done in fencing. Even if it had been a sharp bladed weapon and Advicula's hand would have been cut, he still would have tied up the weapon long enough to deliver his own "death blow" The point of the story... you practice and practice techniques, but when one style fights a different style, sometimes it is the unexpected that defeats you. So cross train, observe other styles, systems. If you train with a short weapon and in close, learn what the long range systems do. If you train in grappling, learn what the stricking arts do. etc. etc. Gary H. ------------------------------ From: pnn Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:42:57 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Stick density questions Questions regarding stick density: Are there any plastic sticks out there that have approximately the same density as bahi? What general density comparisons can be made between rattan, hardwood and plastic sticks? ------------------------------ From: "IESA" Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:27:03 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Fwd: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #204--if you say you know it, at (fwd) Snipped from Gat Puno Baet's response about weapon length (no disrespect intended)... ><< Being a sarrada man what I am saying would appear to be sacraligeous, but >it > is not It's not "sarrada", or "sarada". It's "Serrada". People keep saying that they know the art, but apparantly they don't since they cannot even spell the name of the art that they say they practice. Just a pet peeve. Maha Guro Uddin told me (as he recommended that I cut a yakal stick at 25" while we visited Cecil at Kris Cutlery) "Serrada" does not mean "short stick". You should be able to work what you know regardless of the length of weapon. You need to adjust and work your technique. Peace, Bob IESA +--------------------------------------------------------------------- - -----+ | The coolest site for free home pages, email, chat, e-cards, movie info.. | | http://www.goplay.com - it's time to Go Play! | +--------------------------------------------------------------------- - -----+ +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The coolest site for free home pages, email, chat, e-cards, movie info.. | | http://www.goplay.com - it's time to Go Play! | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:54:41 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Lennox's day Ray Terry said: One style is not the King and neither is one fighter (except maybe on one particular day). Then long live the king! Lennox Lewis is a welcome champion that has brought back some dignity that boxing had lost. Despite the political actions of the associations its nice to see someone just get in there at the weekend and do their stuff with some dignity and honesty. Nuthin' to do with him being a brit tho'!! :-) pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group Scotland UK Mobile Phone * ??0410 401111 Home Phone * ??01224 703737 Email work * Patrick.Davies@Halliburton.com Email home * pat.caz@virgin.net Web site * www.amag.fsbusiness.co.uk ------------------------------ From: "Jerry Bikendova" Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:43:50 GMT Subject: eskrima: Re: context, please I have no doubt, or knowledge for that matter, concerning your or anyone else's streetfighting resume. But my original and subsequent posts concerned Serrada and DBMA. Conversations work better with context, and with two or more participants. Jerry "Sorry, Jerry, been there, done that (for real), and you're dead wrong. Looks like Steve may have stung you a bit (why, I don't know, his posts didn't appear offensive to me), and you were trying to even the score a bit, but I've been in too many fights where no one was coming to our defense, heck, we were the backup called to quell the situation, where the range was dictated by the several guys attacking us. As for the intelligent fighter wanting to be on the ground, try that against several guys who are going to kick your brains out while you are trying to lock up one of their compadres. Theorize all you want, but I've been there when the stuff hit the fan, and hit it hard. Yep, the range does get close up real fast, and grappling occurs almost instantaneously, so why not practice in that range to begin with? Kim" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Ronald.Reekers@HSC.com Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 06:38:39 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Sparring frequency and importance [A couple questions I had on sparring for people on the digest? By sparring I mean by whatever method, empty hands, double stick, pads, no pads, whatever. First- How often do you do it at your school? Is it every session, every week, once a month...] Sid, Every Class. The degree of intensity (or focus) varies though. I use the term Sparring loosely as meaning any random environment were at least one opponent is attacking (feeding). We have three sparring methods; Flowing, One Steps and Full On. Flowing is the least intensive of the methods, it requires that both opponents work together in a random dance type pattern. One Steps requires that one opponent attack with a hard singular random cut, the other partner then must successfully counter this attack with a finishing move executed at the end. Full Up sparring is the full contact random fights we are all familiar with. Which ever method we us is dependent on the theme of the class, the relative health of the students and my sense of the mood (performance level) everyone is in. [Also, how important do you think it is?] I feel it is very important Sid, I can't think of anything we do that can introduce random training like sparring can. Hope I answered you question. Best to All Ron http://thundercenter.tripod.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 07:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #209 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.