From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #229 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Wed, 10 May 2000 Vol 07 : Num 229 In this issue: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 eskrima: Re: first impressions eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 eskrima: PhD eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 eskrima: Re: Armed(Handed) in Europe [none] ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stuart Igarta Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 My first view/experience of the FMA was around 1990. Prior to that I thought that the Philippines did not have their own art, I remember telling someone that they are just doing Karate they don't have their own stuff (talking about not knowing your own heritage). Anyway, a guy I met (who lived in my neighborhood) started telling and showing me a little of the art (I have always been interested in the Martial Arts). I wanted to learn more, so I had to meet his teacher, who would then determine if I had the right attitude to be taught the art. Back then his teacher did not charge for his instruction. I was amazed at what this man could do and this experience started me on my lifelong love of the FMA. Unfortunately, I only learned from this man for 6 months (my friend (who introduced me to his teacher) moved and we lost touch) and I had to wait until 1997 to find another teacher (introduced by Chad). We call our teacher Datu (Chad & Kalani know who I am talking about)and he has greatly increased by love and understanding of the art. I greatly respect and honor him. Check out our website - http://www.fullcontacthi.com ........................................................ iWon.com http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? ........................................................ ------------------------------ From: "Eckzahn Phoenixviertel" Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:29:55 +0200 Subject: eskrima: Re: first impressions First of all a big "HELLO" to all list-members. Barry asked for our first impressions of Arnis/Escrima when we saw it the first time. Okay, so here's my first impression: I was a 15 year old boy, when I was doing Jiu-Jitsu. I was looking for something "tougher" and so I went to a kickboxing- class held in a gym in my hometown. The guys there were all over 100 kilogramms and really tough guys. Their trainer looked at me and said that his gym would be the wrong one for me to train in. I was glad to hear that, because in my thoughts I saw scenarios like one of these bonecrushers jumping on me and beating the hell out of me. The trainer gave me the adress of a school, where they were doing something with sticks. The next day I went there and what I saw made me feel like "WOW! With this stuff it doesn't matter which size you are...." I was absolutly surprised about the powerfull stickblows, the sound of hitting sticks, the footwork and all those things I've never seen in my life before. From that day on I knew which kind of martial arts I wanted to train- this one (Escrima) and nothing else. Due to some trouble in my private life I had to stop training after 3 years and since then I was always thinking :"Man, you must do everything to get on with your training" After eight years of unsatisfied living I returned to my art and feel better than ever before. That's it. Greetings to all of you Moolschiedler ------------------------------ From: SReiter000@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:40:11 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 In a message dated 5/10/00 7:36:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Hi Animal - I was wondering, what methods do you use to strengthen the thumbnails, I have tried on many occasions to grow one or the other of them but I can get a few mm past the end of the thumb before they start to break. >> there are commercially available coatings (like finger nail polish) - go into any salon and ask a pro nail person - or if you dont mind the "look" - keep it covered in crazy glue - every girl i ever dated who broke a nail that could be saved crazy glued it - so i'm guessing that if you keep it covered in crazy glue - it gotta prevent it from breaking- as far as keeping it strong - i would imagine anything that strengthens cartilage - since thats what nails are made from- steve reiter ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: PhD >>Perpendicular, Horizontal, Diagonal strikes. Understand this and we >>all will have our PHD in Eskrima. Just something that I started writing in response to “PHD in MA” that turned into something else, that didn’t make sense about half way through, that I thought was still pretty interesting but didn’t know what to do with it, so I decided to throw it at the digest just to kind of change the mood and topics. So here it goes… If one can understand that there are horizontal strikes at multiple levels of high, middle, and low, and you can understand there are vertical strikes from an open position and a close position at multiple target levels of high, middle, and low with vertical (X) strikes going both upward and downward at multiple levels of high, middle, and low and that can all be done using the stick in a traditional manner, thrust, punyo, power (hand on wrist to develop this), double handed long stick (approximately 4 to 5 feet long), stick in earth position (facing down), double sticks, empty hands, knife (both haven and earth positions), staff (approximately 6 feet and longer), and all these variations can be done as a watik (jab), a redondo (circular),a latik (follow-through), which can then be done from either a standard chamber or a broken chamber, and if one can understand the principles of using “deflection against the force”, deflecting with the force (letrada, etc.), deflecting against to go around, palis palis, gunting, karasak (shielding), agaw, passing, and crossada, and how to fake, evade, close, counter a close, how to clinch, lock, throw, choke, takedown, groundfight, get back up would one have a good feeling for the heart. If we look at it closely, almost every “system” or “style” will have all of these principles and more (this is not the secrets of combat, because I don’t know them-there is a lot more to the fighting arts, this is just touching the top), it’s just that different people choose to maximize on different aspects of it all. That’s because we are all different. Some are short, tall, strong, slow, and some fast. This will affect how we as individuals choose to fight and live. All fighting arts come from one source, God, and is filtered through man(or woman-all you roaring girls!!!). There is so much bickering on which is better or tougher, we are all the same. The sky is blue, right? Well is it the sky or is it the atmosphere that makes space seem blue? Sorry for the long boring post everyone. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 22:27:32 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #227 > From: Bladewerks@aol.com > Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:14:38 EDT > Subject: eskrima: first impressions > > Well i thought id drop another question. > What was everyones first impression of Arnis/Escrima when you first seen it? > I was 19 and in my kickem' high TKD days.(This was late 70's) Bruce had only > died a few years earlier and i was still trying to be like him. > I first seen some Filipino guy(Meno was his name i think) he had scars up > and down his arms. I figured that what was the use,I was not going to use a > stick on someone i would just kickem' real hard. > I also thought "what the heck can you do with STICKS anyhow?" > It took anthor 10 years or so before i really began to explore and learn to > love the art. > I regret so much that i didnt start sooner.It is a beautifully effective art > that "Translates" into so many areas, includeing that of areas of life not > commonly thought of as martial arts,if it are taught correctlly. > I guess this is a strange question but I thought of it the other day and > would like to read what others thought when they first seen > Escrima/Arnis/Kali. > Thanks > Barry Well Barry, my first impression was, looking back on it, pretty humorous. I had been involved in martial arts for about 15 years (TKD as a kid, then several years of Okinawan Goju-Ryu with some dabbling in other things along the way). I wasn't a great Karateka by any stretch, but I was competent. However, I had never really seen any weapon work. The only weapons my Goju-Ryu Sensei taught were the Bo staff, Tonfa, and Sai ... and those were only forms. So, when I first saw Kali, my first reaction was, literally, "Oh boy! Toys!" Then, in TKD and Karate, my penchant for stepping on feet was seen as a "cheat." It wasn't discouraged, per se (my instructors were good and realized it was practical in a real fight), but it wasn't encouraged either. When I was told that not only does Kali encourage it, it has drills that enhance it, I was giddy. Then I saw Silat. I was so totally blown away by Kali and Silat that I drove 2.5 hours every single weekend for a year to train ... then I moved so I wouldn't have to drive so far and I could train more. That was 5 years ago and my passion for Kali and Silat has not waned in the least ... in fact, if anything, it has grown stronger. I always enjoyed my training in the other arts, but I never had a passion for them like I do for Kali and Silat. Regards, Mike - -- Pain is nothing compared to what it feels like to quit. Give everything you've got. -- Unknown _____________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Armed(Handed) in Europe >>Somthing that I picked up that really comes in - excuse the pun - >>handy it to keep two long thumb nails, taken to a slight point. You >>can always take someone's eye out, but the sharpened point will cause >>all sorts of extra pain. Marc, you animal, you. ===== "Draw me not without reason, sheath me not without honor" Chad Hawaii __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! 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