From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #305 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 24 June 2000 Vol 07 : Num 305 In this issue: eskrima: Just a thought... eskrima: Response to competence from an Ontological point of view eskrima: What is that you like... eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "IESA" Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:27:37 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Just a thought... Dear Members, We were talking yesterday and an idea came up. What if all practitioners, instructors, Masters of all interested organizations got together in the SF Bay Area to showcase what art they've learned and what they've done with the art? It wouldn't be an IESA thing, or an Inayan thing, or anything for that matter, and it wouldn't be to try to one-up or out demo any other group or groups. Plain and simple, just a gathering to showcase what we all do. Loosely speaking, the only cost would be for overhead (facility, catering, airline tickets for those coming from out of town, etc.). Any fees charged for spectators would be donated to local charities. This event would be for the community, as well as the practitioners, instructors, Masters, and Grandmasters. It's not about money, but promoting what we all do, which is all good. We've all talked about how it would be great to see what so-and-so does in such-and-such art, even how each group of Serrada does their thing. It would be a win-win situation, where we could all meet, see what we do, and show what we do to the public. Charities would benefit, networks would be established, questions would be asked and answered. Any input/feedback would be greatly appreciated. We as practitioners who carry this art are responsible for promoting the art, also. We all know that the art was designed to preserve and enrich life. Isn't it time that we started to enrich the community as a group? Peace, Bob IESA +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The coolest site for free home pages, email, chat, e-cards, movie info.. | | http://www.goplay.com - it's time to Go Play! | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:32:38 EDT Subject: eskrima: Response to competence from an Ontological point of view Animal Mac wrote: << Youth and skill will always be overcome by old age and treachery. On the other hand, part of the reason why is that the older guy knows he has less time to fuss around. He's not going to waste time because he knows he doesn't have enough lead left in his pencil to dick 'em, deck 'em and dunk 'em in a long drawn out tussle. Therefore it's over real quick. To this end while technical skill will fall before aggression, aggression is a limp noodle when it comes up against competence. >> It's always a surprise and pleasure to see how one who knows their craft can express a fundamental "truth" with ease. All of us who teach should continue to strive for such clarity in communication. Competence as way of being represents a clear intent matched with a knowing that we will produce a certain result. There is a commitment and a velocity to producing a particular result without an attachment to how it is achieved. In my fourth year of studying Eskrima I found myself in a situation defending my best friend from a rear attack. Before I could think, I found myself running to intervene. Before any of us knew what was happening (myself, the attacker, or my best friend) I had jumped up behind the assailant pulled him down by the neck while kicking him behind one of his knees. The attacker (now defender) was spun 180 Degrees and now I was between my friend and the attacker. The attackers was now laid out in a carotid choke with all his weight supported by my arm around his neck. The above sequence probably took all of seven seconds. Five of which consisted of mentally switching to action mode and running to intervene. It was at a concert in Golden Gate Park and Ziggy Marley was playing. My friend was about 25 yards away when I saw the attacker heading towards him at a quick pace. As soon as I made contact, the person was spun, down, and heading towards unconsciousness. The next thing I remember is my friend whispering in my ear saying, "I think you're going to kill him let him go," that and the hippie types saying "love bro, it's cool. Love. Peace." Later my friend said he felt his leg being kicked and spun around to fight. What he saw though was me spinning in place and the guy dropping. A few facts about the situation: 1. That was my first street fight since starting martial arts eight years before and my first fight since my teenage years. 2. I used a technique that had never been taught to me. 3. The guy was taller than me by about 4" inches and out weighed me by at least 30 lbs. 4. The point of contact to me subduing my opponent took all of 2 seconds (He was already thrashing about and I held him till he was out. Here is where competence as a way of being comes into play. I was able to act without thought, without emotion, without any clue as to how I was going to accomplish my intent: stop the attack. In retrospect I was proud of the fact that it was over so quickly and that I didn't throw a single blow. I've been following many of the past threads with interest looking at them from an ontological (study of being) point of view. Hiesenburg proved to the world of science what philosophers and many spiritual teachers have said for centuries. The model/paradigm/system that we test or view life through determines the reality we experience. This isn't just some new age metaphysical or quantum physical discussion. Often the digest stays at the level of the mundane discussing at great length technical details of techniques that in real life can last less than a quarter of a second. There is nothing wrong with that and I have contributed to such dialogs in the past and will do so again in the future. There are also times when a bit of information comes up that I allow to shift my entire way of operating as an instructor or as a practitioner. A clear example for me is when Guro Crafty talked about the seven ranges the dog brothers train in. I knew of and had some experience with set ups that dealt with time/range before contact (I believe it was called outside the circle or pre-stick squared). The point is that after that I ended noticing all over the place where other systems had ways of dealing with and setting up opponents prior to engagement. I also started training with people who I knew were bad asses at that game. Now when I watch stand up sparing of any type (as opposed to street fighting and or self-defense type of situations) it becomes very clear how mastery of this outside game can dominate a fight. Before that I always ended up waiting for people to enter my Serrada range. When I first joined the list prior to being kicked off. I wrote and looked for things to forward my agenda. Now I write to contribute and look for things that forward mine and my students growth. This is possible because I am clear in my intent and open to change. Elrik Gubisch Jundis Director School of Pilipino Martial Arts ps. There was a thread a while back that discussed courage. That to is an ontological distinction. ------------------------------ From: "Jason M. Silverman" Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:20:27 -0400 Subject: eskrima: What is that you like... Greetings All~ I am currently in the process of expanding my school and thought I'd pose a question to the list... What is it that you like about your current school (hours, location, benefits, etc.) that keeps you happily training? In addition, what, if anything would you change about your current school if humanly possible? This would be SO helpful to me in providing the utmost in service to my existing and potential students. I understand that the thought of publishing your dislikes about your teacher's school might not be a real popular idea..so...feel free to e-mail me directly at grappler@earthlink.net All responses will be kept in the strictest of confidence!! Thanks in advance for all of your help!! All the best, Jason M. Silverman Executive Edge Martial Development Universe Gym of North Quincy 31 Newport Avenue North Quincy, Ma 02171 (617) 472-0444 ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:16:02 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #305 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.