From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #321 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 6 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 321 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #319 eskrima: Hard (and brittle) sticks eskrima: Spiritual Side eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: IMATC@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:36:50 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #319 In a message dated 07/05/00 8:31:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > stickfighter27@cs.com > Hello, my name is Ace Ramirez and I am an "Instructor in Training" in Pananandata. Guro Raplh White, Like myself, is located in NJ. He can be contacted by tel: 973 783-5337. Tell him Ace says Hello. If you are in NJ area, GrandMaster Marinas will be in the Tri State area at the end of August. Let me know if you would like to meet him. Ace Ramirez ------------------------------ From: Saturbo@aol.com Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:17:58 EDT Subject: eskrima: Hard (and brittle) sticks One must always remember that at the expense of hardening your stick by fire, you also make the stick more brittle. That is a balance of physics that one must take into account when you consider just how hard you want your stick to be. How wise is it that your stick is hard as steel, but shatters when it makes really hard contact? Your stick must be able to flex a LITTLE for it to really last. Golf balls are very hard, but haven't you ever seen those motion capture pictures of a golf ball being flattened completely on one end as it is being hit by a golf club? The same principle applies to our sticks. Here's an interesting story that I think makes my point; My dad tells me a story about how he was sparring with Angel Cabales in a demo years ago. Things got very fast and very interesting pretty quickly. Angel swung a hard angle 3 strike which my dad caught with a cross block. Power on power. My dad remembers actually seeing Angel's stick bend as much as 30 degrees or so as it made contact with his stick. With that in mind, you must assume that had Angel's stick been harder (and more brittle) it may very well had broken when they made contact the way they did on that particular occasion. I've broken a number of sticks on occasions when I didn't feel as if I had made particularly hard contact on another stick. Doing a very rudimentary single stick contact drill with a Serrada instructor friend of mine, (Jojo Soriben) I splintered the stick I was using making relatively very soft contact with his. (Now I have wrapped that stick in rubber splicing tape and I use it as an extra). The better way to add effective strength to a stick would be to soak it in something that would add durability to it. My dad once told me of a very effective treatment to soak a stick in to add strength, but it escapes me now. The muddy water technique however sounds most intriguing to me. Just my two cents. Ronnie Saturno, JR ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 14:25:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Spiritual Side The triangle...past, present, and future...mind, body, and spirit...The following is an excert of an article written for our website by our instructor. It is a chance to look into the life of a man that was forced to learn the arts at 7 years of age. Doing it incorrectly didn't mean "sit down" or "oops", it meant pain. The training was always done after midnight. It is a story of blood and tears, prayers, anting-anting, and things that are misunderstood. It is a relaying of what he went through to learn: "A distant candle caught my eye, in the wiry of the darkness of the night a hum or groan caught my ear, all this in the focus of my own mind. Is this real or unreal. The groaning grew louder as I moved closer. Actually it wasn't a groan anymore but a crying chant, as if someone died, or something. But what made that ugly sound, I couldn't make it out at first. I told myself I had to get closer. And then it took form, a form of an old lady. Her hair was silvery white, and the hair flowed all the way to the ground. Her face was in pain as if someone was beating her up. But low and behold there was someone around but at that time I couldn't see that well, because of the candle flickering this way and that way. That someone was lying on his stomach, his face facing away from me. At first I thought he was dead but then I saw his legs moving. His body was covered with something and I couldn't make out what it was at first, but the smell gave it away. It was coconut oil. The old lady kept up with her crying chant, and it gave me a whole bunch of goose bumps, all over my body. Especially the back of my neck. Then I understood why. Someone, or something was behind me. It's hot breath was at the back of my neck, and the smell of tobacco lingered in the air, and he yelled out "Batahhhhh", meaning, "Child".... I was held up in my buster browns into the air, over his head, while up in the air, I hurriedly looked around. Then I recognized these strange people, they were my dad's relatives. His name was Ishciong....that's my dad....and he's the one that lifted me up into the air. The one that's lying on his stomach was Haginde, far beyond that was Dadoy....and the lady of course was Manang Tinang, put them all together, that's trouble." The rest of the article is on http://www.fullcontacthi.com . It is under Datu's Corner. This will be the beginning of the completion of the triangle on the site. The body is there in the full contact videos and pics. The mind is there in the articles that I have written. The spirit is here now. ===== Chad chad@fullcontacthi.com Full Contact Stickfighting Hawaii http://www.fullcontacthi.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 15:51:06 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #321 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.