From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #327 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 9 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 327 In this issue: eskrima: Linseed oil on rattan eskrima: Just got to the US eskrima: Re: FMA on The Learning Channel eskrima: oil soaking eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #326 eskrima: a V Dong eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kristine Strasburger Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Linseed oil on rattan I have had very good results treating my rattan sticks with boiled linseed oil in the following way. Fashion soaking tubes from heavy gauge PVC pipe cut to only a couple of inches longer than the sticks you want to soak. Cement an endcap on one end, and leave one endcap free. Place the stick to be soaked inside the tube, and fill to the top with the linseed oil (get it at a hardware store.) The stick will float, so you must hold it down to get the oil level right. Cap the tube, and leave it upright until the stick sinks (has become saturated.) This can take up to several weeks. You should check the oil level periodically, and add enough to keep the stick covered. Once the stick is done soaking pull it out of the oil, and wipe it down thoroughly. Lay it across some scrap sticks to dry for as many days as it takes (again, we are talking weeks here.) Don't lay it directly on any paper, as it may cause the paper to dry to the stick. You want as much air circulation as possible for even drying, but I would not put a fan blowing directly on them. Check the drying sticks daily, and wipe off any drips that accumulate before they harden. Excess oil that is allowed to dry on the stick will become gummy. This process will add quite a bit of weight to your stick, allow it to remain flexible, seal the outer skin against cracking and chipping, and beautify the stick. It does not make the sticks any more difficult to hold on to either. Remember that the end result will only be as good as the raw material you started with. You can't take a single or double node stick, treat it, and expect to end up with the strength of a 9 or 10 node stick. But the process will benefit whatever sticks you try it on. The process is the same for hardwoods, but you do not need to soak them as long in the oil as they have less air space (more density) to start with. Hope this detail is helpful, and that some of you try it with good results. It sounds like it is not much different than the coffee can/motor oil method posted earlier. The benefit of using the PVC pipe soaking tubes is that they allow for complete saturation with minimal work, mess and cost. Mabuhay ang Eskrima! Kristine Strasburger __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Joe McCray" Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 09:14:39 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Just got to the US Hello my name is Joe McCray. I'm a FMA/JKD practitioner - I just recently moved to Arizona. I'm looking to train with anyone willing to train (any art or system basically). I live in Yuma Arizona which is about 5 miles from the California boarder, and 25 miles from the boarder to Mexico (southwestern most corner). I'm a 3 hour drive from the Phoenix area - and I'm willing to travel up to 4 hours for training. I have started a small group here in my area, we train on the weekends in Parks, and maybe twice a week at my friends local Tae Kwon Do school. If you're close by, or know someone close by that's interested in training please email me at: htmlupdate@prodigy.net ------------------------------ From: Buz Grover Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:27:22 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: FMA on The Learning Channel Sid said: "Oh well. It still was a fairly decent documentary in general, and the Eskrima section wasn't bad despite the errors." My reply: Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes: "Everything you read in the newspaper is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have first hand information." Regards, Buz Grover ------------------------------ From: Harms/Burke Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 13:41:52 -0500 Subject: eskrima: oil soaking When I worked as a woodworker for many years I always used Tung oil on my handmade hardwoood sticks- it's prefferred over linseed by woodworkers. As far as soaking rattan- any vegetable oil will do. I would _steer way clear_ of petroleum products like motor oil or kerosene. Prolonged exposure can result in health problems- petroleum products are highly carcinogenic. Even small doses over long periods of time can result in cancer. You may not notice it now but later those golden years may turn out to be black! Jeff Burke ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 17:16:11 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #326 << They featured a Doce Pares instructor out of Jersey City, his last name was Cuestra, originally from Cebu. Anyway they said Eskrima is practiced using a bamboo stick. >> I didn't see the special (I always miss the good stuff :-), but this would most likely have been Dong Cuesta. I've not met him personally, but I've met a couple of his students and they were very good. Mr. Cuesta trained in Doce Pares with Diony Canete and is, as I understand it, very highly respected in the Doce Pares circles. Regards, Mike - -- When you understand a technique, you know a technique. When you understand a concept, you know a thousand techniques. _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:54:29 PDT Subject: eskrima: a V Dong > << They featured a Doce Pares instructor out of Jersey City, his last name was > Cuestra, originally from Cebu. Anyway they said Eskrima is practiced using a > bamboo stick. >> > > I didn't see the special (I always miss the good stuff :-), but this would > most likely have been Dong Cuesta. Yes, it was Dong. They also featured Prof. "V", his daughter, and the heir to his system (David James?). 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