From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #330 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 10 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 330 In this issue: eskrima: re: Knife training eskrima: Learning Channel special on Martial Arts eskrima: RE:eskrima Knife training eskrima: Looking for the email of scott in Sydney eskrima: Re: Maha Guru Re: eskrima: Learning Channel special on Martial Arts eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: AnimalMac@aol.com Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:13:10 EDT Subject: eskrima: re: Knife training In a message dated 7/10/00 4:28:58 PM Mountain Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I would hope someone who has attained a high level of skill would not EVER initiate an attack (unless in armed combat). This leaves street punks, bar brawlers, and psychotics as test panels. Train to defeat THEM by sound basic techniques, proper situational awarness, solid footwork, and a stong spiritual mindset. Then there is always the Nike defense... >> Your conclusion I agree with entirely, an understanding of sound basics is the secret for handling most physical confrontations. Situational awareness is the key to avoiding the mess all together. However I do recommed you slightly alter your premise... and that is that the test panel you mentioned are not skilled. In my opinion one of the worst mistakes Martial Artists make is that they train to defeat inferior opponents. You are not going to be attacked by an accountant gone beserk, whom your martial skills will easily defeat. Bad news, people who use violence to get what they want have a certain degree of experience, physical capabilities and nasty tricks up their sleeves. In otherwords, they have something that can make it work. Trust me when I tell you that if he didn't think he had something up his sleeve that could take you, he wouldn't be in your face in the first place. That means you are going to be facing someone who is at least your equal. Your martial skills don't give you the advantage, all they do is neutralize his. It's like stepping into the ring with another boxer, of equal or greater skill. In otherwords, you are going to be in for a fight. This is why so often fancy and complicated moves, setups, etc etc, don't work There is a guy who is as committed to stopping them as you are to launching them. This is why the more bullet proof basics tend to work better, because A) they are all you have time for and B) they are harder for your opponent to sabotage. What is not really thought of by many martial artists, but is a daily nightmare for bouncers, bodyguards, security, cops, hospital orderlies and prison guards is that you can't pick and choose who you jam with. Sometimes you take one look at a guy and know that it not only is going to go sideways, but that the guy is going to be a bear to take down (that's if you can do it at all). All of a sudden it becomes a whole lot less important of what you can do to him than what he can do to you and it is going to take every ounce of your martial skills to keep it from happening. This is why working the basics and having them ingrained is so important. Many people want to skip past them and get to the whiz bang spiffy moves that look so cool, but those aren't the moves that will save your butt. ------------------------------ From: "Don Edwards" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:35:00 GMT Subject: eskrima: Learning Channel special on Martial Arts I taped the Doce Pares section in an all day shoot with my instructor Master Dong Cuesta and a number of other students. What shows on the final tape and whats left on the editing floor would surprise you (especially if you've never done a video shoot like this). We taped a a sample of all of the ranges we teach, including empty hand. One of the students , who is a defensive tactics instructor for the NYC police department even said they try to teach FMA empty hand in the academy. So it was in there. To get from an all day shoot, to 2 minutes on a video, a lot is left behind. We would have loved to show alot more but guess they just didn't have the time. In terms of GM Cacoy, he is a second degree in Judo and if you've ever worked with him, alot of that shows in his Eskrido... BTW.. I'll be hosting him at my school in Livingston NJ.. anyone interested please email me for details.. (eskrima@hotmail.com) Thanks, Don Edwards ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: MUSASHISAN@gmx.de Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:54:21 +0200 (MEST) Subject: eskrima: RE:eskrima Knife training Hallo sam, your article of the pschological component in a knife fight was very interesting and I think you are right! I think you must have a very strong mind, to master such a conflict! And have a high technical level. Like "Animal" said, most of the knife attacs are assaults: The opponent grabs you and tries to hit you with short and quick stabs and cuts. So I think good footwork and a "goos homerun" are best to handle such a situation. Maybe you have a chance if you try some death blows like Biu sao to the throat (wing Chun : means stabbing with the open hand to the throat ) and the run away. I think if someone really tries to attack you by a knife you should run or (if you can´t run) kill him instantly. There´s is no other chance...such like using complex defense drills or smething. "How to survive edged weapons" prooves this oppinion! What do you think? Holger Wing Chun Kung Fu (http://www.wingchun.de.vu/) - -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net ------------------------------ From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Mon Jul 10 20:31:01 2000 Subject: eskrima: Looking for the email of scott in Sydney Hi Gang, I'm down under in Sydney, Australia. Looking for the email and contact info of the Sydney and Melbourne folk. Please email off the group. Thanks, Elrik ------------------------------ From: WEE Shin Hoe Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:12:40 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Maha Guru Dear Kendal, Maha Guro is a Malay word originated from Hindu. It literally means Mightiest or Highest Teacher. In Philipine, Indonesia or Malaysia, the title is usually reserved for the founder of a style. In most cases posthumously. To show our respect, we might occasionally address our head of style as Maha Guro but few will publicly declared themselves as Maha Guro. This is partly due to our culture of humility and partly because it could be hazardous to their health if their skill does not match their title. Sincerely, S. H. Wee Sarawak, Malaysia. > From: Kendal Coats > Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:47:09 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #326 > > <<<< place in Green Bay,Wisconsin July 14-16. Featured > instructors will be Suro Mike Inay, Maha Guro Nate > Defensor<<<<< > > Can someone give me the definition or usage of this > title Maha Guro. I have seen several Americans > begining to use this. I have only seen the term in > Hindu writings, as Maha Guru, for instance one source > refered to Jesus Christ as Maha Guru, or the highest > Guru. > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:59:14 PDT Subject: Re: eskrima: Learning Channel special on Martial Arts > In terms of GM Cacoy, he is a second degree in Judo and if you've ever > worked with him, alot of that shows in his Eskrido... I thought he told me he was a 3rd in Judo. ?? I know that he said that if Eskrima wasn't 'in the family' that Judo probably would have been his primary art. > BTW.. I'll be hosting him at my school in Livingston NJ.. anyone interested > please email me for details.. (eskrima@hotmail.com) When is that? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:01:45 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #330 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.