From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #363 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 27 July 2000 Vol 07 : Num 363 In this issue: eskrima: Silat sweeps in hard sparring eskrima: Well Informed / Nature of Problems eskrima: July 29th Seminar & Equipment eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe McCray" Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 22:17:57 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Silat sweeps in hard sparring Over the last month I've really been hitting the Silat sweeping. Mostly in Str8 Blast drills - and very, very occasionally in real time sparring. It really seems to come out on the side of the famous JKD quote: "Accidental if not incidental" I'm increasingly finding these silat sweeps in drills - and very occasionally applying in sparring. I find myself in so many opportunities - 99 times out of a hundred I'm str8 blasting. I do it all the time in the drills now - I found this on the Dog Brother website - and I thought this was very interesting. http://www.dogbrothers.com/bytes3.htm I really like this move because it comes out of the Thai style clinch, and he executes the sweep against an on-coming knee. Very good use of the technique I think. Joe What do you guys think? ------------------------------ From: Mikal Keenan Date: 26 Jul 00 10:19:54 CDT Subject: eskrima: Well Informed / Nature of Problems > Identify > the true nature of the problem. > Identify an appropriate and effective answer. > Apply the answer until you reach its logical conclusion. > A fitting approach to many things in life :-) >My experience is that when experts have a hammer, everything tends to look > like a nail. Surgeons tend to recommend surgery, Chiropractors tend to > recommend adjustments, etc. Same is true in martial "arts" eh?:-) Those are the "lesser informed" ones who are limited to a hammer ... like comparing a closed mind from a reputable medical school with an open mind trained by the Amer Assoc for Medical Preventiuon. They both produce "well-informed" pros, but one group is likely to be better informed than the other, generally speaking. From all the doctors (including specialists) and chiropractors who I have had look at me I have yet to hear "well-informed professional advice" as simply eloquent and useful as a yoga teacher's "Knees are escape valves for hips". Keep listening cousin ... like good sources for anything, a good professional helper in any field can be difficult to find. That is no condemnation of those who make the effort to be more comscientious in their work ... and given my own humble experience in biobehavioral science as well as ashram-based training in yogic sciences ... I would pass on the advice of most yoga teachers when it comes to getting advice re: any serious pathology. > The experts almost always > suggest what they are expert in. Thus, from my perspective it makes > perfect > sense for a laymen to confer with non-professionals as well. Makes sense to confer with whoever knows what they're talking about, no matter who they may be. We have licensing to increase our confidence that someone knows what they're doing. The license does not confer competence, and incompetent people can rise to high positions (duh-h-h) ... that reinforces the exhortation "Caveat Emptor." Hey, no offense to any yoga teacher (I teach yoga) but some yoga teacher training these days just amounts to a few days, a certificate and no discipline. Just another way to make money for some. I once lived witha community of yoga teachers who once asked me: "Don't tell people how we really live, OK?" Get my drift? I was the "most disciplined man" in the house. You want good advice? Want good YOGA? Find soemone who really doesn't want to teach ... that's a gem. > Thus one > learns of the existence of not only hammers and nails, but also > screwdrivers and screws, and wrenches and nuts, etc. Yah, but ain't it better to learn about those things from someone who REALLY knows what they're talking about? The test is in the proof. The proof is in the test. > My yoga teacher wasn't a medical > professional, but her thought gave me a very very useful way of looking at > things that no "professional" ever did. Definitely valuable. > Identifying the "true nature of the problem" sounds reasonable, but what > if one expert says a bulging disc is the problem and therefore surgery is > the solution, and another says the disc is bulging because of muscles > compressing the vertebrae and there fore stretching and muscular > rebalancing > is the solution? One sees the disc as the problem, the other sees it as a > symptom. Neither would have identified the true nature of the problem ... if they had they would be in agreement. > What is Truth? Aiya!!! All Time Is Now! Who am I? What is the nature of my original face?:-) As the Rig Veda begins: "Who here knows whenceforth come this multifarious universe?" Answer: No one, so we keep working with working answers, not settling on what we have just because some so-called expert or master says it is so. Street Man once told me: "Everybody knows more about something than you do." Dassa goodie :-) > Sometimes, when things are too far along, ya gotta > go with the surgeon, I hate when that happens! > but IMHO it helps if you go into your dealing with the > "experts" knowing of various perspectives. Doggone straight mon, yessuh! We just need to make sure that the "perspectives" have validity, otherwise we wind up deluding ourselves. Translate that to fighting and what do we have? I have to deal with multiple perspectives all the time in software stuff, working with a team and they all know "everything." Using a combat-oriented metaphor usually drives a point home faster than anything else, i.e., when we consider that our decision(s) will affect life/death outcomes. Banking and investing metaphors work better for some. > My doctor and first physical therapist, "well informed professionals" > both, told me I was finished. The doctor was like a good auto mechanic > and did the surgeries. What he thought didn't matter. If they were well-informed they would not have told you that you were finished. if they had compassion they would have sought out ways to help you to the things that you wanted/needed to do. Too often "professional helpers" are just doing what it takes to get thier next paycheck. Hey, these people are hired hands, contractors, we are the bosses. Remember the traditional Chinese medicine way: Doctor gets padi as long as you stay well. Promotes a different type of motivation for the "well informed professional" to become and remain more well informed and effective in keeping people in their game. > The PT I fired. There it is ... you da boss mon. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 10:04:06 PDT Subject: eskrima: July 29th Seminar & Equipment Forwarding. Ray - ------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings everyone, Thank you for supporting the success of GM Cacoy's seminars this year. Just a reminder for eveyone that this Saturday is the last seminar till next March of 2001. Also if you are interested order body & head gears, please email that now so that I can place that order and have GM Cacoy take it home with him. It's $139.00 for the seat plus shipping & handling depending on your location. For just head gears or body protector, $69.00 dollars each (Sizes on the head: Small or Large; body armor sizes: small, medium and large). Also I have a special on the sticks on a limited time offer only. 60 sticks for $300 (at $5.00 each). Sticks bags at$17 each. Include shipping & handling. Allow 3-4 weeks for delivery to arrive from the islands. Thank you all for those who sponsored seminars this year. If you want to start scheduling a seminar with GM Cacoy for next year, start emailing me as to what month & date so that I can begin to organize his schedules now. Thank you everyone and God bless you all, Rev. Rupert jebrup@worldnet.att.net ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 6:37:36 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #363 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.