From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #385 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 8 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 385 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #384 eskrima: AW: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #383 eskrima: Mo'Majapahit eskrima: Talent training eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #382 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #383 eskrima: switchblades eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a plain text e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jeff T. Inman" Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:09:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #384 Scytale wrote: [...] > Enough of the preamble! Last Saturday we were analyzing our latest fights > and we hit upon a question I thought you folks on the list might be able to > help with. Say you are training with full contact (gloves, headgear, cup, shin > pads) fighting in mind. Lets also say you have a technique or two that comes > naturally to you and could almost be regarded as a 'talent'. For him it would > be his hook punches and for me it would be my roundhouse kick. Since training > time is limited, do you think you would see better results by: > > A) Training heavily the 'talent' technique to sharpen it further and broaden > its usefullness. This does not mean to neglect other skills, but the main > focus is variations on this technique and its interactions with other skills. > > - -or- > > B) Since the 'talent' area is already in good shape, train it less and focus > on other skills in an attempt to produce a well-rounded toolbox. I'd say train the talent. If it works, then use it. Once the guys you fight with start getting tired of getting beat with it, they'll start to mess it up, and then you will be forced to learn something else that works. The result is that you will have a bag of tricks that work, as well as the sense to detect when you're dealing with someone who knows how to mess up the particular tricks you like to use. This is how "styles" develop. ('course, it pays to be alert for opponents who have their own tricks that you've never seen before.) Happy trails, Jeff Inman jti@ncgr.org ------------------------------ From: ptbernd@gmx.de Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:01:14 +0200 Subject: eskrima: AW: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #383 Hi! If he wante to train Pekiti Tirsia, he could contact Tim Waid (twaid@hotmail.com) or Omar Hakim (omar@pocketmail.com. They could help. In Lubbock which is 6 hours driving north/west from Dallas there is a friend - Oliver McRae. He trains Pekiti Tirsia, too. Regards Bernd Giller ptbernd@gmx.de > A student of mine is moving to Dallas to go to collage.He wants > to continue > his Arnis training.Does anyone know of good schools/teachers in > that general > area? > Thanks in advance > Barry Meadows ------------------------------ From: Mikal Keenan Date: 8 Aug 00 09:50:14 CDT Subject: eskrima: Mo'Majapahit Found this at http://www.prica.org/indonesia/general/history.html#hindu ... King Jayabaya of Kediri 1135-1157 wrote a book in which he foretold the downfall of Indonesia. Subsequently, so he wrote, the country would be ruled by a white race, to be followed by a yellow race. His prediction turned out to be Dutch colonial rule and the Japanese occupation of the country during World War II. However, Jayabaya also predicted that Indonesia would ultimately regain her independence. During the golden period of the Kediri Kingdom many other literary works were produced, including the Javanese version of the Mahabharata by Mpu (saint) Sedah and his brother Mpu Panuluh. This work was published in 1157. The kingdoms of East Java were later succeeded by the Majapahit Kingdom, first ruled by Prince Wiiaya who was also known as King Kartarajasa. The Moghul emperor, Kubilai Khan attempted to invade Majapahit. His troops, however, were defeated and driven back to their ships. As Majapahit grew to become a powerful empire, it conquered the kingdom of Crivijaya in South Sumatra. As mentioned earlier, this kingdom has once been attacked by the Indian kingdom of Chola. Under King Hayam Wuruk the Majapahit Empire became the most powerful kingdom in the history of Indonesia. It had dependencies in territories beyond the borders of the present archipelago, such as Champa in North Vietnam, Kampuchea and the Philippines (1331-1364). King Hayam Wuruk, with his able premier Gajah Mada, succeeded in gradually uniting the whole archipelago under the name of Dwipantara. During this golden period of Majapahit many literary works were produced. Among them was "Negara Kertagama," by the famous author Prapancha (1335-1380). Parts of the book described the *diplomatic* and *economic* ties between Majapahit and numerous Southeast Asian countries including Myanmar, Thailand, Tonkin, Annam, Kampuchea and even India and China. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ From: "Tom Skoglind" Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:14:17 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Talent training Bryan- Since your respective "talents" are most likely very ingrained moves that you are most comfortable with, they are probably what you will naturally turn to in the high stress situation of a street confrontation. You should train them, but learn to integrate them with a variety of techniques and combinations. Use your talent as an entry or to set up other techniques; develop other techniques to set up your talent as a finishing or power move; practice backup techniques in case your opponent counters your talent move, etc. Eventually, many of the individual techniques will also become second nature and you will have a spontaneous, free-flowing set techniques at your disposal. Tom Skoglind tskoglin@schmitt-title.com ------------------------------ From: SReiter000@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:39:27 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #382 In a message dated 8/6/00 7:32:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << Another knife q: Why is the balisong illegal (in most states)? Folders "conceal" the blade too... >> a lawyer friend of mine who is into fma and a big 2nd amendment advocate said it was because a) a lot of "gang banger" types started carrying them - kinda the same logic as ascetics are the cause of people going crazy ( what constitutes an assault rifle) - and b) because nonwhite guy's use these type of weapons - fat-cat white guy's carried guns - so these same white guy's who make the law sayes guns are only a mistermeanor - any weapon that a nonwhite carries has to be a felony stevge ------------------------------ From: SReiter000@aol.com Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 12:51:56 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #383 In a message dated 8/7/00 12:18:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I believe the law describes knives that are opened using mechanical springs(switchblade) and inertia(balisong)... >> think your off on this one - any blade can open with inertia (flicking your wrist) - or look at the cold steel tri action (opens with a different motion of the hand - but is basically a balisong) - or any of the spring assist blades - the law for switch blades states actuator switch as the problem - not a spring steve ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:44:10 PDT Subject: eskrima: switchblades > << I believe the law describes knives that are opened using mechanical > springs(switchblade) and inertia(balisong)... >> > > think your off on this one - any blade can open with inertia (flicking your > wrist) - or look at the cold steel tri action (opens with a different motion > of the hand - but is basically a balisong) - or any of the spring assist > blades - the law for switch blades states actuator switch as the problem - > not a spring Well, no, that is the way it is defined. e.g. in CA PC 653K "For the purposes of this section a "switchblade knife" is a knife having the appearance of a pock- etknife, and shall include a spring-blade knife, snap- blade knife, gravity knife or any other similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more inches long and which can be released automatically by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by any type of mechanism whatsoever." However, in some cases the one hand openers have been specifically classified as non-switchblades. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 10:45:34 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #385 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.