From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #405 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 21 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 405 In this issue: eskrima: difference in styles eskrima: Re: Stand alone schools Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #404 eskrima: Re: Students eskrima: storefront school eskrima: Okinawa, Japan eskrima: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:49:46 -0400 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ken Grubb" Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 01:36:59 -0400 Subject: eskrima: difference in styles Kenpokaratepa@aol.com wrote: > My question is how does eskrima differ from arnis? In some ways, an appropriate answer would be to quote Shakespeare on the sweet smell of a rose otherwise named. If the various styles within FMA were roses of all colors in a garden, to someone outside the garden they'd all look the same: pretty petals, nice smell and thorns. But if one comes in the garden, chooses a particular variety of rose, digs around in the dirt, prunes it, gets to know it a little, one probably begins to see differences between the various roses. > I've been told that arnis blends well with Parker > style kenpo which is what i study. but there so > many styles. FWIW, at the Modern Arnis school where I study, we have one very experienced lakan (black belt) who's been a kenpo practitioner for some time, and I believe he studied Ed Parker's style. 3 other guys who've joined in last few months are cops with local PDs. All 3 used to be cops in Hawaii where they studied kenpo. Vince, the most experienced kenpo practitioner of the cops, has told me of a number of pieces that have and do translate from kenpo into Modern Arnis. > I'm not sure what makes each one unique. There's probably a degree of ergonomics. One style fits one individual better than another style. Ken Grubb Lacey, WA -- Just outside Olympia Spelling Rule #507: There is no F in WEIGH. ------------------------------ From: IMATC@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 08:02:25 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Stand alone schools I know that Guro Jaso Silverman just opened a"standalone school" storefront with only Doce Pares Filipino Arts offered this month. Way to go Jason - Good Luck!! I am in the process of making my school the same way. i did start with other supplemental arts such as Muay Thai, Capoeira, etc. However I do have a decent student base where they will follow what I recommend. So now if I have x number of students like kids in a karate format, if I alter their program to say FMA, they will be fine with it since I know how to deal with their needs already and anyone new coming will just follow along with what is already being taught. The the original students, it is an extention, to the new, to it the foundation. I also know of another Guro who did the same. Had Karate in his program with FMA and then Got rid of the karate. He seems quite fine financially as well. as far as in the Black, that varies according to staff and what is considered your lifestyle as well. Since I opened my school, my "operating costs" have changed and can't really say a number. Thanks for listen to my ramblings Ace Ramirez ------------------------------ From: Powrscrol@aol.com Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 00:59:27 EDT Subject: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #404 Judo To subscribe to the list all anyone has to do is send an email to: LISTSERV@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU with the one-line message: SUBSCRIBE JUDO-L myaddress myname Just don't mention chi/ki -- unless you want a list war (why I unsubscribed). Other than that, I guess it's a good list. Steve W. ------------------------------ From: jsphon@totalise.co.uk Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:24:03 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: Students > From: Ray Terry > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:28:21 PDT > Subject: eskrima: students > > For those of you running your own 'standalone' school... (i.e. a studio > that you rent/own, pay heat/light/water bills, etc.) > > I realize that this could vary greatly... Do you have a number in mind > when it comes to regularly paying students that you feel you need to maintain > to keep your busniess successful? e.g. you feel you need a minimum of 50 We need 8 paying students (Some F***s run off)to break even on costs. And it's £2 per session. Jon. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:30:32 PDT Subject: eskrima: storefront school > We need 8 paying students (Some F***s run off)to break even on costs. And > it's #2 per session. You can pay rent, utilities, etc. for school on only 8 students?!? Or are you running a program at a property were the rent, power, water, etc. is mostly free? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:24:21 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Okinawa, Japan I believe that Rick Faye has taught in Japan and I have heard that he has students there. You could contact diana@skypoint.com and ask <> pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group Web site * www.amag.fsbusiness.co.uk ------------------------------ From: Steve Grantham Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: eskrima: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 08:49:46 -0400 Tuhon Bill McGrath: >From: "BILL MCGRATH" >Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:18:27 -0400 >Subject: eskrima: FMA schools? >Ray asked: >"For those of you running your own 'standalone' school... (i.e. a studio >that you rent/own, pay heat/light/water bills, etc.) >I realize that this could vary greatly... Do you have a number in mind >when it comes to regularly paying students that you feel you need to >maintain >to keep your business successful? e.g. you feel you need a minimum of 50 >[insert-other-#-here] paying students to keep your school running in the >black month after month?" >To which I would add the question; do the "standalone" schools teach only >FMA or FMA, Thai boxing, JKD, etc? I haven't seen a stand alone school that >taught only one system of FMA in many years and was wondering if there were >any left? It seems that to survive in today's market as a stand alone you >have to either become a child care service (most karate schools), an >aerobics class (Tae Bo) or a martial arts college ( Inosanto Academy, MKG, >etc) covering several different disciplines under one roof. >Regards, >Tuhon Bill McGrath - --------------------------------- I teach 5 systems at my school, and I need about 40 students to break even (still not there yet). Kali is one of the smallest classes and is usually attended by only the most dedicated students who really love the art. Steve Steve Grantham Network Engineer OneCoast Network (404) 836-8846 ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 7:20:21 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #405 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.