From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #410 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 24 Aug 2000 Vol 07 : Num 410 In this issue: eskrima: Kali and Stickfighting eskrima: LiveBlade training part II eskrima: school mgmt orgs eskrima: sparring eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry, the Martial Arts Resource, Inayan Eskrima Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd Ellner Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 19:26:46 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Kali and Stickfighting My teacher (Guru Plinck) got back from the de Thouars Family Gathering. He liked it a lot, had a good time, made lots of friends. One of them was a Venezuelan gentleman whom he is going to visit and trade Sera for the guy's South American bladed art. I was looking at the couple of drills he brought back and was struck by how different they were from pretty much all of the Kali/Arnis/Eskrima I've seen in this country. The difference is that those drills were very obviously based on the use of a medium length bladed weapon. The FMA I've seen has been almost entirely based on a medium length IMPACT weapon. The specific use of distance and evasion, the lack of what we would recognize as blocking, the use of range, and and the type of handwork all said "BLADE!" In contrast the American FMA practitioners I've seen are a lot more nonchalant about contact, stay at dangerous ranges a lot more, and do an awful lot more blocking. I'm not saying one is better than the other. But it is instructive to see the contrast. When I last talked to Cecil Quirino he related similar things. His acquaintances who had a lot of practical experience with the sword and short-sword family of weapons had a lot in common with this. Different weapons, different concerns. Todd ------------------------------ From: Sean Maguire Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 04:56:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: LiveBlade training part II As Kevin's training partner let me add my two cents. 1- Having trained under Guro Kier, Kevin and I have both come to respect and appreciate the level of incredible control that he was. 2- Guro Kier is very good about pushing us to the next level and getting us to trust our training 3 The liveblade training is still just that- the contact that occurs would be different in situation with a real aggressor (you would tap to find/create an opening and then move in and attack, hopefully with a blade that you were able to draw, you would NOT play around in the range where you can get cut but not deliver any blows.) 4 The degree of focus the live blade brings is quite substantial and this focus can get lost when you work with training blades all the time. 5. I would (at this stage in my training) not feel comfortable feeding someone a live blade, nor would I recieve this sort of training from just anyone. Sean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:25:24 PDT Subject: eskrima: school mgmt orgs Anyone out there with their own school using one of the martial arts management groups like EFC, EasyPay, Global Finance, etc? Comments, pro or con? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Brian Creekmur" Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:13:04 -0500 Subject: eskrima: sparring Hi all...I'm fairly new to the list, been lurking for a couple of months, and have been studying JKDC and FMA on and off for about 4 years. I was just wondering what some of you thought about sparring progressions (assuming the student has already developed some basic coordination with single or double stick). Is it best to slowly progress from learning the technique, drilling it, then doing numerada(one side feeding), then finally to sparring , OR Do some of you feel that sparring right away in addition to learning techniques,drilling,ect. is the way to go? P.S. Ray, the digest is great!!! It's really brought back my passion for FMA.Thanks a lot!!!! ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:33:11 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #410 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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