From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #473 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 9 Oct 2000 Vol 07 : Num 473 In this issue: eskrima: new member eskrima: Silat seminar featuring Guru Jim Ingram in 2 weeks! eskrima: Re: stick coatings eskrima: Terrific sports injury info website eskrima: Mike Inay, funeral eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Suro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "jose saguisabal" Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 21:13:27 -0700 Subject: eskrima: new member Hi, my name is Jose. I'm not really new--i joined a few months ago, but i just got around to reading all the emails I've received since August. I am barely a Pilipino martial artist (I am Pilipino, but hardly a martial artist), but I am more of a fan than anything else. I have met many local martial artists, but i really don't have the time to work out. I do know, however quite a bit, and would like to comment on some of the old topics: 1. Of the Filipinos I have met, none have heard of Panantukan, Pananjakman, Hubad Lubad, etc., other than what has been used by the practitioners of the Filipino arts under Dan Inosanto. I believe the correct terms for a punching art is Suntukan, the kicking art is Sikaran, Buno is grappling, Tutop is trapping. These terms came to me by almost all of the gentlemen, and they speak different dialects. 2. Pretty much every Philippine-trained Master is sure that Kali, which is an ancient form of combat, no longer exists, and exists only as a newly revived term by Foriegn practitioners. To argue whether it exists or not makes no sense; just ask the million or so people who study these arts every day! But, we also cannot argue that the art does not exist in the Philippines, nor an "ancient" art anymore, nor can we point to the Philippines as the home of these arts...they are American Filipino arts. 3. I know that a school can stand on its own feet that only offers the FMAs, but one must know the business of running a school, and have impressive skills. I have found (and no offense if this hits home with anyone) that those who specialize in the FMAs have much better skill than those who have studied the arts as a supplement. If you are a "jack of all trades and a master of none", don't be surprised if the average guy off the street isn't impressed with you. Well, let me get off my soap box...I am looking forward to some great dialogues about the martial arts of my culture! Anyone here from the Sacramento, California area? 10% cash back on all your calls through 2000 at Lycos Communications at http://comm.lycos.com ------------------------------ From: Kilap@aol.com Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2000 21:05:33 EDT Subject: eskrima: Silat seminar featuring Guru Jim Ingram in 2 weeks! Pentjak Silat - Amerindo Self Defense seminar featuring Guru Jim Ingram Guru Ingram's Amerindo system incorporates Pukulan Pentjak Silat Mustika Kweetang, which includes multiple strikes, takedowns, sweeps, joint locks. grappling/wrestling, ground, knife, and stick fighting. This system is a combination of finesse, applying physics, knowledge of anatomy, and how energy is directed. The emphasis is on economy of motion and efficient realistic self defense. It is based upon maximum destructive output with minimum effort. Guru Ingram's broad knowledge also includes Pukulan Japara, Tjimande, Manyang, Gulat (wrestling), and Vitimaen (stick and staff fighting from the Moluccas) among others. His grappling techniques are amazing. Guru Ingram has been practicing for over sixty years and moves better than a lot of people half his age. Don't miss this rare opportunity! MacKay's Martial Arts Academy 100 Factory St. Nashua, New Hampshire October 21 and 22, 2000 10:00 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. Cost: $60.00 per day Mr. Don MacKay (603) 889-6181 Address: PO Box 415 Londonderry, N.H. 03053 From New Hampshire US-3, 1: Take Exit 5 2: Continue (North) on Main Dunstable Rd .3 miles 3: Continue (East) on SR-111 [Kinsley St] 1.2 miles 4: Turn LEFT (North) onto Walnut St 0.4 miles End: Arrive 100 Factory St, Nashua, NH, 03060 <0.1 miles For more info on the art please see: Pukulan Pentjak Silat Mustika Kweetang Regards, Travis ------------------------------ From: Patrick Davies Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:48:55 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: stick coatings Did you heat treat the rattan first or just coat it? Tom Meadows << Master Sam Tendencia used to make some mighty fine batons and one trick I learned from him is to use boiled linseed oil to coat the baton with. You wipe it on as a wet oil and then you allow it to dry and then do several more coats. It won't chip off like laquer or varnish, seems to protect the stick from impact to a degree, and most importantly it turns tacky in the presence of sweat which makes it stay in your hand much better than any other finish. Kim Satterfield: We went to using boiled linseed oil a few years ago, and are very happy with the results. It does provide a much better grip on rattan than any other coating I've used, and is excellent for preventing splitting from moisture (sweat) in hardwood sticks, too. My son and my teacher both use large PVC pipes filled with linseed oil, and we just soak the stick inside the pipe for a couple of weeks. One note...it's important to use boiled linseed oil as opposed to raw linseed oil; raw oil takes months to dry. Cheers Pat Aberdeen Martial Arts Group ------------------------------ From: "Phil Tong" Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 00:49:15 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Terrific sports injury info website Hi list: Was going to post a link showing some "classical" knife fighting techniques out of some old book but even I could see these are pretty questionable in a real world fight so found something else wayyyy more useful! Check it out: http://martialarts.about.com/recreation/martialarts/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?s ite=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.topcondition.com%2F Unfortunately found this because I am injured now too, beginning stages of rotator cuff/AC joint problems. Anyhows, check it out, site loaded with medical / rehab info and anatomy terms I can't even pronounce! Have a great new week, Phil ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 7:11:56 PDT Subject: eskrima: Mike Inay, funeral The funeral for Suro Mike Inay was held this past Saturday, October 7. It was simply amazing to see so very many people at the service. Standing room only. A great eskrimador is gone. R.I.P. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 7:12:57 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #473 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.