From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #492 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 20 Oct 2000 Vol 07 : Num 492 In this issue: eskrima: Rick Tucci Kali Series Update eskrima: Re:Videos eskrima: to copyright or not to copyright... eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Suro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and online search the last five years worth of digest issues at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Robert L. Burgee, Jr." Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:03:05 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Rick Tucci Kali Series Update Hi, Just wanted to let everyone know that we've posted a video clip of the intro to Rick Tucci's first tape on our websites. It's a bit large (3.5 megs), so beware if you don't have a high speed connection. Take a look if you get a chance. http://www.trainingblades.com http://www.edgesvideo.com ------------------------------ From: IMATC@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:38:36 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re:Videos - --Dear Eskrima Digest, I was wondering what were some of the best filipino martial arts videos and books out on the market. If somebody could post some reviews or links to website. I would greatly appreciate it. Sincerly, Tyler ------- Hi everybody, I just wanted to let everybody know there there is a martial arts instructional video company that will shortly be releasing videos on Filipino Martial Arts, Bando, Muay Thai, and other arts. If there are any instructors who would like information on releasing tpaes related to FMA, Silat, Grappling, or other related arts, please email UnlimitedArtsVid@aol.com or call1(866)MA VIDEO. We hope to be sharing with the community professionally made instructional/documentaries in 2001. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:39:51 PDT Subject: eskrima: to copyright or not to copyright... FYI, Guro Jundis and I had a short private discussion about the copyright notices that appear in the issues of the digest. Hopefully this clears up any concerns that folks may have but didn't wish to bring it up. To be read from the rear forward. Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:03:11 EDT Subject: Re: Another Dialogue Distinction Ray, Feel free to send it to the ED. Elrik In a message dated 10/19/00 8:18:47 PM, raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > From: EGJundis@aol.com > Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 11:37:55 EDT > Subject: Another Dialogue Distinction > To: raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > > Ray, > As I wrote about my reservations for sharing, I have to admit it felt silly. > In litigious country like ours and with arts that traditionally borrow from > each other I thought it prudent to err on the side of caution. When one > considers that learning often includes taking in new information, processing > it, and then applying it to ones own issues, my prior concern seems the > antithesis to learning. > > Another dialogue distinction is that participants enter open to the > possibility that they may move their position on an issue if they find it > better fit's their overall commitment. > > One of the big issues of our digital age is, "How do encourage and support > dialogues while at the same time protecting the intellectual property that is > shared and created in the process." Rereading your response bellow leaves me > feeling good. I think it is a solution that is currently working and working > well. I just wasn't aware of the context. Now I do and I would like the > copywrite protection to stay. People will of course do what they will, but I > like having the warning there. > > I think the context of your use of the digest as a resource with copywrite > protection is a good one. As for people being afraid to write, IMHO I think > they should have a conversation like this one. As for a solution, I say open > this thread to the ED. I would start with the concern listed as a question as > you have done with me while also listing the commitment and intent of the > list. Also mention that the purpose of the thread is to have people feel free > to contribute. > > Sincerely, > > Elrik Jundis > Director > School of Pilipino Martial Arts > > > > > In a message dated 10/18/00 6:51:38 PM, raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: > > Elrik, > > Thanks for your comments. > > As for the copyright, that is not intended to stop people from posting. > If it does I will reconsider it. What do you think? > > It has been openly discussed before. The only reason it is there > is to protect you and all the other posters. Without it there, all > posts become public domain and someone could easily 'steal' your posts > and mine and Crafty's and ??? and write their own book. So the copyright > is there to scare them away. Anytime I have been asked if someone > could use a post from one of the issues I have -always- said that it was > fine with me as long as it was fine with the original author. I have no > plans to use the material myself, I simply want it avaiable for folks > to read, learn, search online for research purposes, etc. I have no plans > to use the material in any other way. > > How could the copyright issue be addressed without scaring people away > while protecting the material and all the authors at the same time? I'm > open to ideas... > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com >> ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 13:49:47 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #492 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.