From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #556 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 28 Nov 2000 Vol 07 : Num 556 In this issue: eskrima: Knives in England eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #555 eskrima: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:36:01 -0300 eskrima: Re: Knives in England eskrima: re: Knifes in England? eskrima: re: A Question on Cross-Training eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jonathan Broster" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:57:25 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Knives in England Hi The topic of carrying knives in Europe has come up before, and it was noted then that the UK has some of the strictest laws in the world with regard to the carrying of knives. I checked with my sister-in-law who is a solicitor (attorney) and she confirmed my belief that it is essentially illegal to carry a knife at all, unless it can be demonstrated that the carrier had reasonable cause to do so, such as sitting on a river bank, fishing with a knife in your tackle box. This is the law as it relates to all rigid knives ie lock knives and other knives with blades over 3 inches in length (around 7.5 cm) This means that carrying a knife in a public place, like a pub is a crime!! I guess that in practice you have to weigh up the possibility of being stopped and searched by the police (minimal if you are white) with the danger of being mugged attacked in London (violent crime is rising all the time in UK). I hope this is of some help. Jon http://www.geocities.com/jonbroster ____________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Richard Killick" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:21:45 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #555 Your get a lot of answers but since I have students who are regular "beat cops" and one who works in the anti terrorist team at Heathrow (London Airport). Here is what they are currently doing when they find someone with a knife (even though some of them train FMA). If you get stopped in a public place and they find a knife on you (almost any length) they will ask you what you have it for. You will come up with your trusted answer like its for when I go fishing or I need it for rock climbing (my one). They will then take your knife off you and in certain cases you will be nicked. If your found on Airport, port, Royal, Ministry and Government property, your get nicked/arrested for possession. The punishment varies. I was told last week that one gentlemen from the US tried to get a bowie type knife past customs at Heathrow, decided he was not going to hand it over. He got a MP5 butt in the face and was then charged and sent back to the US (he will probably join the list of people who are suing the police). Bottom line is leave the knife at home unless its a training knife, even then it may be taken off you. Hope that's not to alarmist but that's the way it is this week. Regards Richard Killick. > From: "Bernd Giller" > Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:55:45 +0100 > Subject: eskrima: Knifes in England? > > Hi there! > > Does anybody know about the laws for carrying knifes in England/GB? I will > go for a week to London, soon. > > Thanks > > Bernd Giller, Germany > ptbernd@gmx.de ------------------------------ From: "Beth & Duke Blois" Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 15:03:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:36:01 -0300 Hello everyone. I was just wondering if anyone could tell me where to find staff training drills as related to FMA. I am looking for things that I could train in a flow drill similar to Box Sumbrada. Thanks Allen Blois abblois@nbnet.nb.ca ------------------------------ From: Steve Harvey Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:37:43 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Knives in England At 09:58 AM 11/28/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Does anybody know about the laws for carrying knifes in England/GB? I will >go for a week to London, soon. As I understand it, you are not allowed to carry a knife period, unless you have a demonstrable reason to carry one, e.g. you are going hunting, camping, etc. I am not sure how this applies to small pocket knives. When I have gone there, I always carry something very small and innocent looking, and a stick in my luggage for defense. I actually had somebody try to enter my hotel room while I was in it while visiting High Whickham a couple of years ago. I shouted and the intruder left, but I noticed I was headed for the door, not for my weapon (cluck, cluck). I also smuggle chewing gum into Singapore. Just a rebel I guess. ------------------------------ From: rudolf@kimbel.net Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:17:50 +0100 Subject: eskrima: re: Knifes in England? >Does anybody know about the laws for carrying knifes in England/GB? I will >go for a week to London, soon. Hi Bernd, England doesn't have the same law system as we do in Germany. A Policeman, as well as later the judge, can simply find you having a knife to be criminal. So don't take one along. It can get you in jail. If you feel strange, buy something in England you have an explanation for, a hammer, a walking stick, a bicycle pump, use your imagination. Rudolf, Berlin, Germany. ------------------------------ From: rudolf@kimbel.net Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 02:17:49 +0100 Subject: eskrima: re: A Question on Cross-Training You'll quickly notice what's compatible. Karate, TKD and such are not, their straight movements are too different. I watched a guy in our Eskrima group who also did karate, I always saw when he had done karate the day before. Boxing and Thai Boxing are compatible, IMHO. The main objective is that the footwork and movements do not collide. Rudolf. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:33:00 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #556 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.