From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #568 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 5 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 568 In this issue: eskrima: Good day to die eskrima: Re: thick or thin eskrima: Re: Elbows and Black Belt Mag. Knife article eskrima: Re: shorter stick and gloves eskrima: Re: stick size/thickness eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 7:23:52 PST Subject: eskrima: Good day to die Forwarding. Ray - -------------------------------------------------------------------- A friend wrote this as part of a note to me. I was being very formal as to show respect (and practice some Japanese terms). I thought it was very interesting so thought I'd share it with yall. (this guy is an Aikido Sensei). Take care, Mac "Titles are meant as a means of distinguishing achievement and showing respect. Warriors need neither. We simply are. The most important thing is that we act impeccably, from the power within. Each action we perform is the best we can do therefore we live without regrets and the pomp and circumstance that dictate many people's paths. The art is not the man, the man is the art. The essence of the art is the spirit. It is the kindred spirit of the warrior that manifest itself between men. Evident without the trappings or structure of titles or trophies. It is this spirit I sensed in you. Thus for you as for all warriors everyday is a good day to die." ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Thorsten=20B=FCste?= Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 18:12:42 +0100 (CET) Subject: eskrima: Re: thick or thin Hi there, my opinion is, that beginner should use thicker sticks. Because it helps them to build up muscles and will increase their speed. When they've learned enough they can slowly switch to thiner sticks. When you can controll a thick stick you are able to control thiner stick more accuratly and ith a lot more speed. check the thin stick page ;-) for more infos. mabuhay Thorsten www.necopa.de __________________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Gratis zum Millionär! - http://10millionenspiel.yahoo.de ------------------------------ From: "Ernest Westbrook" Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 17:44:14 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Elbows and Black Belt Mag. Knife article citrus7@mindspring.com, wrote: >Hello, > >Regarding elbow destructions: A few years ago, during a sparring >match, I >dropped an elbow on an incoming sidekick that was aimed at >my ribs. It was >a very short downward move from a standard boxing >guard position which hit >the top of my partner's foot with the tip of >my elbow. It stopped the >kick, but did not stop the match. X-rays the >next day confirmed that his >foot was broken. Point well taken, Chris! A single blow will not always stop a fight. Therefore it is a good idea to use combimations when and where possible and expect that it will take several solid hits/kicks to gain enough room to escape from street encounters! abreton@juno.com, wrote: >Subject: eskrima: Black Belt Magazine article snipped... >I would be interested in what people thought of his conclusions. Without data from some other research effort or police reports, all that can be offered is opinions. I was not impressed with his findings, but I can not factually reputiate them either. EBrook _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Dexter.Labonog@wcom.Com Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 13:26:16 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: shorter stick and gloves Chad, I'm surprised by the comments about thick, thin sticks and gloves, padding and helmets. I personally consider there is a difference between training and fighting with such protective gear. If I train full contact with protective gear then I'm trying to ensure that I do not become injured nor that I severely injure my opponent. If I get hit in places that I'm trying to protect then there is a lesson to be learned that I'm not protecting myself properly against whatever technique or weapon is being used against me. This allows you to go home, lick your wounds and figure out how to recognize the attack and prevent it from succeeding. Now, I consider that if you use protective gear during a real fight then it is part of your arsenal in weapons as do soldiers and law enforcement wear to ensure survivability during a conflict. I agree with all of the comments made about the differences of stick, gloves, lengths etc; but it's still a controlled match and one should acknowledge and imagine that in reality you may have been killed. Just my thoughts for those wanting to take their training to a higher level but don't want the ego. Respectfully, Dexter Labonog, Maestro Giron Escrima (Bahala Na) Revillar (SLD) http://www.bahalana.com "Draw Me Not Without Reason, Sheath Me Not Without Honor" ========================= Re: Shorter stick: An official statement from the guy I referred to about the short stick was that he felt "uncomfortable", and Sunday afternoon, he turned around to go pick up my other stick after he placed his 24" stick side by side with my 31", and said "**** that". >>A heavy glove makes that difficult with a thinner stick. Heavy gloves can make a difference in the manner in which one fights. Less fear of the hand shot. I don't think they make a huge difference for the guys that wear lighter hockey gloves, maybe a slight one, but not that much. I got hit on the pointer yesterday and didn't realize how bad it was till a few minutes later after taking the glove off. Lots of swollen hands/fingers, but nothing broken yet(knock on wood). ===== Chad chad@fullcontacthi.com ------------------------------ From: MdlAgdLftr@aol.com Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:39:43 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: stick size/thickness Hi all, FWIW, in our Serrada, we use a stick 20" to 24" in length, but the sticks we use are much thicker than those used by other players we've met. Our sticks are 1 1/8" to 1 1/4" thick, are heavy rattan to begin with, but then we soak them in linseed oil to add a bit more heft to them. The main complaint we hear from people in FMA's outside of our school is that we hit too hard, and use sticks that are too big. Oh well.... Kim ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 14:15:12 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #568 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.