From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #570 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 7 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 570 In this issue: eskrima: Kali Ilustrisimo Seminar Sunday December 10, 2000 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #568 eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #569 eskrima: sig files, keep'em short eskrima: Kalis Ilustrisimo Flyer eskrima: This & That eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Plumador@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:19:13 EST Subject: eskrima: Kali Ilustrisimo Seminar Sunday December 10, 2000 Hello everybody. This Sunday, Kapisanang Mandirigma will be hosting a Kali Ilustrisimo seminar in Los Angeles. The seminar will be conducted by Dr. Hans Tan, a certified instructor under Master Tony Diego. The cost is $40 a head, and the seminar will be held at the SIPA building in Los Angeles. (Search to Involve Pilipino Americans) SIPA is a red brick building located on Temple and Dillon just west of downtown. The building is right across from the exterminator building; the one with a big picture of a guy with a hammer that you always see off the 101 fwy. I don't know SIPA's address but it is on Temple and Dillon. Dillon is a few blocks West of Alvarado, and a few blocks East of Vermont. If I have time, I will try to post Sipa's address, but the location directions I have provided, should be adequate. Be there, or be square. ------------------------------ From: Bladewerkr@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 10:25:25 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #568 On the big stick / little stick thread.....I have made it a practice for some time now to do all my solo training with a set of 1 5/16 "x 36" pieces of solid PVC rod. The extra length/weight makes the normal sticks I use seem like the light demo sticks I started with when I first started training and the big dia. (I have found that with my hands 1 5/16 is the maximum dia. I can control) really makes me have to grip a lot harder when training. It's kind of like doing shadow boxing with a set of light dumbbells, when you go to a normal stick they really whiz. I buy the rod in 12 foot lengths from a supplier, so 36" works really well. Respects, Bear ------------------------------ From: Dexter.Labonog@wcom.Com Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 10:22:21 -0800 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #569 Chad, I know what you mean when you see a lot of people crashing in for the first hit and not be concerned of second hits or counter hits. But it's you, I and others that need to continue to educate and pass on the information so that misconception about tournaments and gatherings are not perceived as a waste of time. Honestly, I would not compete at any event to maliciously hurt someone. That energy should be reserved for the moment when you must put your life on the line to protect self, family and country. Tournament fighters should acknowledge to themselves that even if they win their match according to the tournament rules did they actually survive the match in reality....and the losers should know that in reality they may have won the duel......both fighters should come out a little more humbled and knowledgeable..... Tournament competitions or gatherings are great for developing the warrior within without fear of death (unless accidental) It also will help you recognize the various forms of fighting persuasions individuals develop out of their fundamental foundations but the basic rule should be to train as real as possible, hit and not get hit....protective gear is for protection...ask what if I didn't have protective gear on when I got hit? One thing that came out of WES (West Coast Eskrima Society) was a need to gather to share and sort of fellowship. So tournaments were created an unfortunately so was animosity. Final post.... Respectfully, Dexter Labonog, Maestro Giron Escrima (Bahala Na) Revillar (SLD) http://www.bahalana.com "Draw Me Not Without Reason, Sheath Me Not Without Honor" From: Chad Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 16:07:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #568 Dexter, I agree with you. Sparring equipment has done a great thing for the modern day warriors. I'm pretty sure you came to the tournament down here in Hawaii either this year or last year. I saw alot of people training to hit and then not worry about taking the second hit. IMO, they shouldn't really score that point. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 15:24:10 PST Subject: eskrima: sig files, keep'em short Folks, just a reminder to please keep those signature files short. A signature file is the tag at the end of each of your msgs that includes your name, address, etc. A maximum of five or six lines is recommended so as to not bombard folks with constant 'ads' or other such info. (Note my two line sig below.) Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Plumador@aol.com Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 21:34:31 EST Subject: eskrima: Kalis Ilustrisimo Flyer 



   
   


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From: "william schultz" 
Date: 6 Dec 2000 21:32:49 -0800
Subject: eskrima: This & That

Greetings,

I don't get much free time to get online and respond right now, but while I
have a moment I'll weigh in on a couple of threads with my two cents.

Elbow strikes:
Targeting an opponents fist IMHO is an excellent tool to use. Not always a
fight stopper but, the surprise and pain jars them long enough for a number
of excellent follow ups. An exercise that I use with students to work this
type of block/strike starts with you and your partner squaring off (he wears
boxing or hockey gloves). We start slow with your opponent only throwing
jabs. You try and target the hand, sometimes using a parry/Pak sau to help
guide his hand to your elbow.Your opponent controls the tempo and gradually
speeds it up. Then he throws only crosses. After that, he switches to
jab/cross  (One,two. One, two). Parry the jab, jam the cross. Then you add
footwork in to the mix and it gets real interesting. The last thing we do is
a free flow with your opponent throwing what ever they want. You can only
respond with parries and elbow strikes to the hand. Then we switch and start
over from the top.

Native American Martial Arts:
A few weeks ago we had a native American gentleman come out to work with us
at Guro Daniel's place who is exploring the martial arts of his ancestors.
He had a shield (about two feet in diameter) that seemed to be made of a
hardened skin like raw hide and a ball club made from a traditional material
(I want to say Willow wood, but I could be way off). His movement was very
similar to what we do in the FMA. What I found to be really interesting is
that he would hold a knife in the hand of his shield (left) arm so that the
blade would protrude 3-4" from the edge of his shield. Sometimes he would
hide it so you would have no idea that it was even there. If you came at him
with a forehand (angle one) strike, he would bring his shield up in a sort
of Roof block to take the impact and deflect it. As the strike slid off the
shield, he would rotate his shield hand and cut your weapon arm as it slid
by, and almost simultaneously hit you with the ball club. It was very
interesting and I hope he comes out again.

Well I have to go already, it's bath time for the kids. I wanted to weigh in
on the striking the ground thread--oh well, next time.

Take care,

William Schultz
PCMA/MCAC


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From: Ray Terry 
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2000 22:05:18 PST
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