From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #586 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 19 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 586 In this issue: eskrima: SF Bay Area gathering of practioners and instructors eskrima: Re: Combat Cane eskrima: Merry Christmas From Hawaii eskrima: Straight Blast Gym Winter Camp 2001 eskrima: Re: Cebu, Philippines eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #585 Re: eskrima: Merry Christmas From Hawaii eskrima: two or one eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 20:15:01 EST Subject: eskrima: SF Bay Area gathering of practioners and instructors Back in June of this year a thread was started about creating a gathering of FMA practitioners in the San Francisco Bay Area. I have not heard anything since. Anyone have news on this? Regardless, I would like to work with interested parties to see such an event happen. I don't want to step on any toes if things are already moving forward, but if they are not, I am putting myself out as a contact person for an event around June of 2001. I will be working to gather members from the Bay Area FMA, student organizations, as well as Filipino nonprofit communities. I would like to have an event open to the general public. The focus would be to highlight south east asian martial arts as forms of expression and practice. I want to create an event were the practitioners of our arts are honored and a sense of community and affinity is created. It would also be an opportunity for old rivalries to be healed and new friendships to be created. A tournament could also be part of the event; I know for many in the Bay Area this is there favorite form of FMA expression. The event would be an opportunity for those of us who loves these arts to come together and share as well as educate the community at large who would also be invited to attend. I look forward to the replies. Sincerely, Elrik Jundis Director/Lead Instructor School of Pilipino Martial Arts (415) 601-2735 ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Combat Cane Hi Ray, > 1. Have any of you actually used the cane in your full contact > matches? Twice, against a Golden Whorde member, once with me using it, once with him using it. His lack of being in the "full-contact" field showed though and the cane didn't make much of a factor when he used it. My instructor used it a couple of times and mainly used it to hook my stick to get a brief pause for a thrust, and he did hook me behind my knee once, that really hurt. > 2. Would you consider the cane to be more of a two-handed weapon? Depends on the cane and the situation. "Self-Defense" situations where someone just rushes you, it could be used effectively as such. Also the cane has a few neat little tricks on the ground. > 4. Any tips for this over the hill, out of shape beginner? Practice. I don't think the cane has much of a different structure from the stick. If you know how to use the stick in a real situation, you will know how to use the cane as well. However if you train in some outrageous tie-ups with the cane, you wind up being good at outrageous tie-ups. > 5. Would you consider the crook/horn to be a liability or an > advantage in a real street situation? As I stated above, I don't feel that the stick has any really big significant difference from the cane on how some people emphasize. Sure a few things are different, but so is it with a heavy stick vs light stick. Best way to find out for sure is to gear up. Also, you can hold the cane with the crook of the tip as your punyo and it has a built in guard and good for hooking punches at close or clinch range. Hope that helps some... ===== Chad chad@fullcontacthi.com Full Contact Stickfighting Hawaii http://www.fullcontacthi.com http://www.egroups.com/group/stickfighting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Merry Christmas From Hawaii Merry Christmas from Hawaii at 80 degrees and sunny with tropic winds. Where's everyone else at? ===== Chad chad@fullcontacthi.com Full Contact Stickfighting Hawaii http://www.fullcontacthi.com http://www.egroups.com/group/stickfighting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Chad Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:54:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Straight Blast Gym Winter Camp 2001 Is anyone else here planning to go to this camp? If so and you haven't registered already, please e-mail or call me. Thanks alot. Straight Blast Gym Winter Camp 2001 January 13th & 14th from 9am-5pm with an hour for lunch in Portland Oregon, (facility to be announced.) Instructing and coaching will be: Randy Couture Rigan Machado Matt Thornton Daniel Duby Randy will be showing greco clinching and NHB fighting techs. Rigan Machado will be teaching BJJ. Daniel Duby will be teaching Savate for self defense, and competition aplications, and Matt Thornton will be teaching Functional JKD, stand up, clinch & ground, and training methods for combat athletes. cost: $250 preregister (before December 15th), $300 at the door If I'm not mistaken, they are still accepting pre-registry...but don't hold me to that, I'll check. ===== Chad chad@fullcontacthi.com Full Contact Stickfighting Hawaii http://www.fullcontacthi.com http://www.egroups.com/group/stickfighting __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:23:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Cebu, Philippines Yo: I got the tickets in my hand. Visiting Cebu, Philippines late Jan 01 and Feb 01. Hope to learn from some fine Filipino Masters. But, if you think I aint gonna party till its 1999 (re: Prince, aka The Artist), you got a hole in your soul, and you don't eat chicken on Sunday. Play hard and play fast. McD... P.S. Love, peace, and harmony. Happy Holidays, baby ! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: paulo solana Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:32:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #585 > From: Ray Langley > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:29:01 -0800 > Subject: eskrima: Combat Cane Defense > > Hello to Ray Terry and all who make this list a > great success. As an > introduction, I am taking private tutoring in > Kuntaw-Kali. My primary > interest in these arts is learning how I can adapt > these techniques > directly to the common crooked-top walking Cane and > legal-to-carry > knives. >My goal is to > "find" a simple but highly effective system, using > the Cane. > 2. Would you consider the cane to be more of a > two-handed weapon? > 4. Any tips for this over the hill, out of shape > beginner? > 5. Would you consider the crook/horn to be a > liability or an > advantage in a real street situation? > > Thanks to all for your consideration. Happy Holidays > to all. > > Ray Langley Ray Langley, I've just been practising kali/arnis for two years, I'm just a begginer. I'm a student of Lema Scientific Kali Arnis System here in Davao City, Philippines. I just want to comment that Kali/Arnis/Escrima is not biased in the use of weapons nor is it just a weapon based art. What I mean is an Escrimador trained in the art can use whatever weapon he has in his hand, whether it is short or long. May it be a stick, a bottle of beer or coke, a pair of scissors, a ballpen and yes even a cane.Ultimately the HAND is the REAL WEAPON...what it grasps i just an extension. Congratulations! You already achieved your goal Kali/Arnis/Escrima is the most highly effective system using the cane, regardless of its different styles or islands of origin. I'm just going to answer your 2nd and 5th question. Definetly a cane is a two handed weapon (1 cane per hand) as well as anything that you can grasp in your hand provided that it has a rigid structure regardless of length. A crook or a horn is an advatage in a real street situation. Anything grasped in your hand is an advantage, any weapon is an advatage, especially if your opponent doesn't have anything in his hands. Lastly my tip is do not loose sight of the main principle of Kali/Arnis/Escrima...Self Defense. The stick used in practice is just an introduction to the art, just an instrument to learn the principles of Kali. Try doing your basic strikes and defenses without using the stick or the cane. Imagine that your forearm is the stick and your fist as the tip of the stick. Maybe you'll understand what I mean. your brother in the art, paulo solana __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:16:05 PST Subject: Re: eskrima: Merry Christmas From Hawaii > Merry Christmas from Hawaii at 80 degrees and sunny with tropic winds. > > Where's everyone else at? In California, where it has been brutally cold lately. It was ONLY 42 deg. this AM!!!! Geezzz, I almost had to put on a sweater... :) I'll be spending Christmas and other less enjoyable dates (e.g. my 49th b-day) in Ohio. Where they'd laugh heartily at what a weather wimp I've become. Hoping for a white Christmas, but those are rare in Southern Ohio. Ray Terry Remember the reason for the season. raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:19:04 PST Subject: eskrima: two or one > Definetly a cane is a two handed weapon (1 cane per hand) Paulo, Great comment. I love it! Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 19:47:05 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #586 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.