From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #599 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 29 Dec 2000 Vol 07 : Num 599 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Jow/Balur Cimande Oil eskrima: Determining Drills eskrima: Police Training? eskrima: Live blade sparring on TV! eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource An open FMA discussion forum provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay, Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Todd Ellner Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 15:27:47 -0800 Subject: eskrima: Re: Jow/Balur Cimande Oil Kel620 writes: > Herb Shop sells the Balur Cimande oil and Dit Da Jow. Mushtaq Ali Shah > recommended this company to me a long while ago. I guess he's making his own > Cimande oil. I'll have to check out that website....I just checked the > website. It's the same company. I didn't know they were online. >> If nobody else has mentioned it, there is a great Indonesian alternative. >> This list's distinguished lurker Mushtaq Ali Shah makes a really excellent >> Balur Silat. I think he still sells it through bulkherbshop.com Mushtaq makes the Balur Cimande which bulkherbshop sells. Todd ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 21:42:59 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Determining Drills Meghan Gardner wrote: "Mr. McGrath, Wonderful piece on drills & sparring. May I request some input from you on how you determine what sort of drills fit which fighters? Do you just put them through a variety and see which they take to? Or do you employ other means?" First I would put every student through a period of "basic training". This helps to make sure that everyone is speaking the same language per the techniques of the school and allows the instructor to judge the strengths and weaknesses of the students. People will rarely get good at something unless they enjoy it. Therefore expose them to everything you know, but watch what they do while practicing on their own and what they do under stress. Once a student is ready for individualized training, I would assess his fighting style according to the guidelines I illustrated in my "Earth, Wind, Fire & Water" post on E.D. earlier this year. I would train a student to improve their natural strengths while working to defeat the ways an opponent would try and counter that fighting style. Say you had clones of Ali and Tyson as students [don't we all wish!]. You would have your "Ali" work on his strengths like the real Ali did by warming up with 1,000 jabs a day. You would have him do a lot of footwork drills and fight-specific rode work. Meanwhile your "Tyson" would be lifting weights and hitting the heavy bag to better his own strengths. The counter strategy to a largo ''wind'' fighter like Ali are close quarters power techniques and the counter strategy to a close quarters ''earth'' fighter like Tyson is to snipe at him from range. Therefore, these two men would make great sparring partners for each other. Here is one drill I would use. Put Tyson in headgear and Ali in an abs protector. Have Ali work his jab while staying at largo range. Have Tyson work on getting past the jab to throw a close range body shot. They would each need to work on footwork that keeps them at or gets them into their preferred range. The drill is that Ali would just stick to his jab and Tyson would just stick to getting past it. Here is where the coach's experience would come into play. Where are the openings in an attack that allow a counter? How would each fighter lay a trap with his footwork that would lead the opponent into a bad position? Essentially the steps you would take when deciding what drills to work an advanced student on are: 1. Decide what their best weapons are (and they should try them all under a variety of conditions before you make your decision). 2. Have the student work on mastering those weapons. 3. Understand the range of those weapons and work on the footwork that best utilizes them. 4. Work on countering the most likely strategies that will be tried to counter those weapons. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com ------------------------------ From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 22:17:56 EST Subject: eskrima: Police Training? In a message dated 12/28/00 5:05:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << From: "Kevin Davis" Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 10:13:55 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Police Defensive Tactics & Suspect Control Training Kevin, I have a program in Garimot System called POLICE CARE (Police Caution Response). Based on the Basic Buno (Filipino Wrestling) Techniques. We adapted the the 21 Basic Law enforcement code and alter the code used the theory of Buno restraints and control manipulation. We introduce this program here in Miami under Miami Dade Community College (Law Enforcement Program). >>As part of a research project I am interested in martial artists views on the state of police defensive tactics and suspect control in this country. I would like to solicit your input & comments on the following: >>How much time (hours) should be devoted to this training in a police basic academy? We introduced the Program in Three Days of 8 Hrs per day, 24hrs Total of IntensiveTraining. Theory, Code Training, & Simulation. Most officers found the System very strong and safe more than the old Code they used. They also learn Colapsible Baton Techniques, Knife Defense and Caution Response Act. >>What material should be included in this training? Training drills and aids to increase retention? >> We currently under process of the first Recreational Parks Officers, on this Program. We are now cater Police, Correctional Officers and others Law Enforcement units, here in Dade and Broward County under the Program of the MDCC(Miami Dade Communnity Colleges). If you need more Ideas you can E-mail me at GatPuno@aol.com. Gumagalang/With respect, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Reasearch Center USA ------------------------------ From: Kilap@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 08:00:40 EST Subject: eskrima: Live blade sparring on TV! Did anyone catch the live blade sparring, knife vs. knife, on the Travel Channel's Robert Young Pelton's most dangerous places? He did a show titled America's Most Dangerous Places. Anyway the clip was really short but there was an elevated ring outdoors with bleachers around it, what seem like two referees and the participants only safety gear was eye protection. They all fought without shirts. The knives where supplied. The "winner" was the one who inflicted slashes of the most length, depth, and number. Target area was above the waist and below the neck. Couldn't tell if the knives were modified to protect against it but it seems stabbing was not allowed. The tournament winner at the end exclaims what a positive and great experience it was for him. Regards, Travis ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2000 8:02:23 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V7 #599 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2000: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.