From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #38 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 22 Jan 2001 Vol 08 : Num 038 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Book Review eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 eskrima: Defendu eskrima: re: woman's self-defense eskrima: Typo in frist posting eskrima: Re: Modern Defendo vs Defendu eskrima: Re: Pocket / Palm Stick eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #36 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Georgios Christou Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:18:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Book Review Hi people, I bought a book by Marc "Animal" MacYoung a few days ago, called "Taking it to the Street: Making your Martial Art Street Effective". When I was younger I used to think that guys like him didn't know what they were talking about. I thought that my TKD and Judo training gave me all I needed (and maybe more...) to beat ANYBODY in the street... Then I got older (and hopefully a bit wiser :) Anyway, I only finished 3 chapters from this book, and boy does Marc drive the point home. IMHO it's a book that all people should read, just to start them thinking on their training and how to develop some nice responses against some not-so-nice people. Animal does not want to teach you how to beat anybody on the street nor that he claims that his book will do that, and that's what I liked about it. It just talks about how what one is taught can be used in a potential life threatening situation, with some "How the mind works" theory thrown in for good measure. Coming from a Cognitive Science background, trust me, what he says is very true... Well, I guess I'm really excited about his book, huh! And with the ongoing thread about women's self defense, I'm pretty sure that there are some concepts in his book that would benefit any WSD seminar. Keep workin' George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer III Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:28:53 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 > >Anyone keeping up with the revolution going on in the RP? > >Comments from those currently in the RP??? > Not a revolution, we just kicked out a thieving SOB, CONSTITUTIONALLY! yeah. ------------------------------ From: Barry Hitchcock Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:16:41 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Defendu Hi Folks, According to the resident experts on the Combatives board, Defendu bears very little if any resemblance to that taught by Fairbairn. Check with StreetFighter@WebTv.net Barry ------------------------------ From: "Johnaleen" Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:29:26 -0500 Subject: eskrima: re: woman's self-defense Woman's self-defense Ok I have been very busy of late and I have not had time to respond to most of what was sent on woman's self-defense.. I sent you the statistics and some made comments about it not mattering what they are... They matter but so dose everything else that goes with Woman's self defense. or flat out street defense and awareness. Statistics are part of the awareness training that should be offered as a whole in any program. I will most likely be taken to pieces now from some of you but I want you all to understand before I make the following statements,,,,, They are based on my personal experiences. both in Teaching. Educating myself. and the life experiences of a Woman.My experiences have been vast and I have seen much more then the average women but... there experiences that I have learned greatly from and were part of my overall education in this field.. I say overall because life experience is only part of what backs my opinion. I have seen many of the different programs offered worldwide that are being promoted and given and I have personal experience as to what works in real life compared to practice or classes of one kind or another.. Question. Can you teach enough to a woman to save her life in a 3 to 4 hours seminar? Personally, I do not think that we should look at woman's self defense in a one time shot this way.. I think that these seminars or classes should offer a lot more then most of them do now.. It is difficult teach someone that has no experience, enough in a few hours time by offering it to them in the present accepted format. I also believe when you teach anything like this it should all be followed up with a full list of resources and places to go to continue learning what you have started teaching them. Not only that, I would go as far to say that anyone teaching self defense seminars like this should be required to provide each technique they taught and all lectures they give in a hard copy format given free of charge to the student that attended the class. Yes, you can sell videos but I do not believe that you should ever let any student leave a class or seminar without something covering all that they learned on paper free of charge. Why? Because you are teaching something that should have, documentation to follow it up with.. it is our duty as teachers and educators to make sure what we teach can be gone back over later, especially with a one-time seminar for people that have little or no experience in the arts. We can not expect someone that has just come off the street with no experience to be able to understand the moves and things taught like we do in our own classes with students that will be coming back on a regular bases. I also don't believe that anyone should teach these type of classes or seminars unless they have both the life experiences and the formal education in self-defense / awareness/ abuse and victim counseling skills as well as some kind of formal education into the physiological aspects of rape/abuse/and violent crime, to back up both the statistics and the fears of women and or people that are facing the self defense classes and the reasons behind why they are taking them. I also believe that these types of classes should be offered to people differently then they are now.. Over a longer time span and covering many aspects of self-defense and awareness... yes, I will hear that it is hard to get someone to commit and all that.. However, its again part of what teachers and educators should do and I believe that more of us should take a larger responsibility for teaching and how we do so. The Quality of what we offer and what we give as teachers and educators is what Sets the Example and sets the tone of our futures both in the business of teaching our arts and teaching the mental aspects of the art... If your not willing to put the time into educating yourself overall covering all aspects of what your teaching then your doing the people that your teaching a dis-service. The statements above do not reflect any one program or system... they are just standards that I believe should be followed when teaching self-defense and awareness seminars or classes to people that have no or little experience in self defense or the MA first.. "Johnaleen bows deeply and waits for her thrashing" Ms Johnaleen Castro CEO/F.A.T.E. Facilitating Awareness Through Empowerment 1-888-526-4626 FATE@f-a-t-e.org www.f-a-t-e.org ------------------------------ From: "Johnaleen" Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 23:43:35 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Typo in frist posting ***Statistics are part of the awareness training that should be offered as of a whole in any program.** sorry kids typo'd the sentence above It should read: Statistics are part of the Awareness training that should be offered as part of a whole in any program. Ms. J. Castro (: ------------------------------ From: szorn@webtv.net (S ZORN) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:45:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Modern Defendo vs Defendu Modern Defendo is a combination of Fairbairn's Defendu and Hapkido. Although there is more emphasis on the Hapkido. I had 2 of the first series of Modern Defendo videos which covered basic strikes, and joint locks. The funny thing is that there was emphasis on boxing punches which Fairbairn didn't feel were appropriate for "real" situations. Steve ------------------------------ From: szorn@webtv.net (S ZORN) Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 09:51:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: eskrima: Re: Pocket / Palm Stick Ernesto Presas has a video out on the Dulo-Dulo (pocket stick). It is available from TC Media via Kung Fu / Wushu magazine. He also covers "Dos Puntos" on this video. Dos Puntos is a method of using a standard rattan stick by holding it in the center with one hand and using it for blocks, strikes, locks, etc. It's a good basic video. Steve ------------------------------ From: "Action Reaction School of Self-Defense" Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:46:28 +0100 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #36 Dear Sir, I have recently started teaching children of 5-6 years old. I am looking for games to include in my classes that would allow the children to learn the following: focusing speed precision balance I am looking for anything that would ensure a kid to develop some Martial Arts skills in an enjoyable manner. Replies can be sent to actionreaction@easynet.be to the attention of Vittorio. Any suggestion is welcome. Thank you very much for your help. Vittorio ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 7:23:54 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #38 *************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY of an email (top line, left justified) addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.