From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #172 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 9 April 2001 Vol 08 : Num 172 In this issue: eskrima: Benjamin Luna Lema ? eskrima: Dos manos eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #171 eskrima: Philippines - Public Announcement eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1350 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 12:55:53 PDT Subject: eskrima: Benjamin Luna Lema ? > Kind of apples and oranges. I trained privately under Mang Ben mainly for > stick application, .... Is Manong Ben still actively teching? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Michael Koblic" Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 20:11:00 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Dos manos I have been watching the 3-tape series on Dos Manos stick fighting produced by W. Hock Hochheim. Most techniques demonstrated are using about 3-foot stick gripped at both ends with puno-type length protruding either end. 15 angles of attack are demonstrated, two of these are forms of the hockey "cross-check", several are essentially thrusts. My question is: how powerful are the strikes with the puno ends parallel to the target(even extended slightly)? Are they powerful enough to be considered finishing techniques or are they essentially set-up techniques requiring a take-down (as shown in the tapes) and a base-ball type of finish? The tapes include very little of the latter, perhaps they are thought not very useful in the initial phases of the encounter, or they are though intuitive and not requiring much teaching ("anyone can swing a stick with both hands"). This seems to contradict with the evidence of other taped fights I have seen with longer sticks/staffs where the combatants grabbed the sticks near one end and made sure they kept each other at the other end of their sticks from the beginning of the encounter. Is this a function of the weight of the staff (one can handle a heavier stick more efficiently in the Dos Manos grip than with the baseball grip)? What do experts in staff fighting do? Do you concentrate on practising techniques holding the staff in the middle and using both ends to strike or do you hold the staff at one end? Or combination of both? If so under what circumstances do you use one or the other? Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC ------------------------------ From: "Johnaleen" Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:19:12 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #171 > are willing to dress up like a chick and come down and walk around ... Ray ***Sounds like a typical Saturday night for Crafty. :)*** nawwww i have seen Craftys legs and there way too hairy to wear a woman's business suit.. unless of course he is willing to shave his legs first then it might be ok... :).... Ms. J..... ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 6:56:31 PDT Subject: eskrima: Philippines - Public Announcement Philippines - Public Announcement April 5, 2001 A series of violent incidents in the Philippines have made travel unsafe in certain areas. In view of these incidents, and the possibility of future occurrences, Americans traveling or residing in the Philippines are urged to review their security practices, remain aware of their surroundings and exercise extreme caution. A series of bombs exploded in the Metro Manila area, including the cargo terminal at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), on December 30, 2000, killing 18 people and injuring 100. In view of these incidents, and the possibility of future occurrences, Americans are urged to be particularly cautious in outdoor public areas and to not approach or linger in the vicinity of a bomb-related incident. Americans are cautioned not to disturb suspicious objects or packages and report any such incident to local authorities. If you observe a bombing incident, immediately notify the Embassy. Additionally, U.S. citizens are strongly cautioned to avoid all travel to the southern and western areas of the Island of Mindanao, to include Zamboanga City, due to incidents of terrorism and violence. U.S. citizens should avoid travel to the island of Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-Tawi, and Jolo located in the Sulu archipelago in the extreme southwest of the Philippines. Since April 2000 the Abu Sayyaf terrorist group (ASG) has taken hostage a number of Filipinos and foreign tourists. Some of these hostages were killed by their captors. In August, the same group took credit for kidnapping a U.S. citizen. There is concern that the ASG may take additional actions against U.S. citizens and other foreigners. There have also been sporadic incidents of violence in southern Mindanao, including bombings in General Santos City and at the Cotabato Airport in Maguindanao Province, as well as bus hijackings on national highways. The Moro Islamic Liberation Front reportedly has claimed responsibility for these actions. Again, the Department strongly cautions Americans against travel to the areas cited above and urges caution in travel to other parts of the Philippines. Americans should avoid large unruly crowds and political demonstrations, keep a low profile, and vary routes and times of all travel. For further general information on travel to the Philippines, consult the Department's latest Consular Information Sheet for the Philippines. This replaces the Public Announcement of January 5, 2001 to extend its validity and it expires August 5, 2001. Department of State travel information and publications are available at Internet address: http://travel.state.gov. U.S. travelers may hear recorded information by calling the Department of State in Washington, D.C. at 202-647-5225 from their touch-tone telephone, or receive information by automated telefax by dialing 202- 647-3000 from their fax machine. *********************************************************** See http://travel.state.gov/travel_warnings.html for State Department Travel Warnings ************************************************************ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 7:14:55 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #172 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. 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