From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #174 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 10 April 2001 Vol 08 : Num 174 In this issue: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 eskrima: Re: Dos Manos System eskrima: Philippines - Public Announcement eskrima: Silat seminar with Guru Jim Ingram eskrima: Re: what we did last week eskrima: cutting practice eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1350 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luis Pellicer III Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:26:03 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 >Is Manong Ben still actively teching? > >Ray Terry >raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > Yes he is. Though he does so on a one on one basis, and has slowed down a bit in terms of number of students. (He IS in his eighties) Still in good shape though, we should all be so lucky at that age! ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer III Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:36:13 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 >There have also been sporadic incidents of violence in southern >Mindanao, including bombings in General Santos City and at the >Cotabato >Airport in Maguindanao Province, as well as bus hijackings on national >highways. The Moro Islamic Liberation Front reportedly >has claimed >responsibility for these actions. This happens periodically, the Moros start a fuss, the army wastes them. Right now they are holding an American hostage, were supposed to behead the guy then realized what they would be starting. They wisely backed off. >A series of violent incidents in the Philippines have made travel >unsafe in certain areas. In view of these incidents, and the >possibility of future occurrences, Americans traveling or residing in >the Philippines are urged to review their security practices, remain >aware of their surroundings and exercise extreme caution. > >A series of bombs exploded in the Metro Manila area, including the >cargo terminal at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), on >December 30, 2000, killing 18 people and injuring 100. In view of >these incidents, and the possibility of future occurrences, Americans >are urged to be particularly cautious in outdoor public areas and to >not approach or linger in the vicinity of a bomb-related incident. >Americans are cautioned not to disturb suspicious objects or packages >and report any such incident to local authorities. If you observe a >bombing incident, immediately notify the Embassy. > Part of the problem was the opposition to the previous Administration, this seems to have been sorted out since the President was kicked out of office. There seems to be a resurgence of kidnappings though. Foreigners are usually seen as easy targets by certain groups, but like anywhere else, common sense prevails when dealing with strangers. ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Allen" Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:18:51 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Dos Manos System Since I was one of the participants/instructors on the tape, I'll try to give a little bit of insight to to the Dos Manos System. When the DMS system was organized, most people just weren't using two hand on the stick and the many system were, and still are, discussing the FMA as a bladed style **some are blade only**...but unless the FMA style is BLADE ONLY, there is no reason whatsoever not to use two hands on the stick. The punyo strike with two hand are not dependent on the size of the stick. I would hate to fight someone with a umbrella in my hand, but if you let me have two hand on it an use the punyo, it has much more realistic combat applications. I believe the DMS system has struck a nerve with people because opens up a whole new frontier in their stick work (blade work also if you pay attention). The takedown with two hand on the stick are numerous and devestating. THEY HURT MORE! Why? When people use two hands on the stick for takedown, they use their bodies in the throw/takedowns rather than their arms. I personally don't like being the uke *bad guy!* on the techniques because of the torque that people can apply. One of the reasons that people like punyo hooking techniques it that they are more viable in a double handed situation than in single stick techniques. The two ribs that I have had cracked from the stick have NOT come from single-handed stick techniques -- they came from two handed stick techques. Many of the chokes and locks that people are wowed with are variation of dos manos techniques. The transition from single-hand to double-hand techniques make these possible. This transition is one of the most valuable skills that fighters can learn. People have already discussed the differend hand positioning. I probably missed touching on several of the comments made. I would suggest that you visit Hock's website at www.hockscqc.com to get more information. A list of seminars in your area is listed at: http://www.hockscqc.com/seminars/index.htm. I worked with Hock for a long time now and have enjoyed the growth of the system and Hock's open mind toward combative martial arts. Find a seminar near you, stop by and see for yourself. If you are interested in asking Hock directly, contact him at: HockHoch@aol.com Finally, here's a list of the video's mentioned -- they scratch the surface of the system....come to a seminar and play. You'll find more than you thought :-) Volume #1: DMS Power Strikes, Blocks, Drills Volume #2: DMS Power Combat Scenarios and Strategies Volume #3: DMS Push, Pull & Turn Series, plus DMS Ground Fighting You can get a full list of video and contact information at: http://www.hockscqc.com/shop/ I'll also try to answer your questions. Have a great day and keep training! Jeff Allen drjeffallen@home.com ------------------------------ From: "Jay de Leon" Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 21:18:26 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Philippines - Public Announcement You could have made that public announcement anytime since time immemorial to today. I lived and worked in that part of the Philippines in the early '70's--2 years of living dangerously. It was dangerous then, it is probably even more dangerous now. At that time, the rebels used to ambush everybody including army convoys travelling between Cotabato City and General Santos City (then called Dadiangas). Cotabato City was under PC (Philippine Constabulary) control, which meant even though there was a police force in the city, the PC (a special branch of the armed forces) kept peace and order in the city, patrolling in full battle gear. At the time I was there, Muslim rebels attacked, terrorized and held Jolo city for several days until government forces recaptured it. I used to ask locals both Christians and Muslims when they thought peace would ever come to that part of Mindanao. Most of the time, the answer was never. Once somebody answered, "Not in my lifetime or my son's lifetime. Maybe my grandchildren's lifetime." Most decidedly a deluded optimist. It is also interesting to note that not all of Mindanao is a tinderbox or a killing field. For example, just an hour's drive from Cotabato City is Davao City, as beautiful and peaceful a city as you will find in the Philippines. You just have to know where to go. ------------------------------ From: Kilap@aol.com Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:40:47 EDT Subject: eskrima: Silat seminar with Guru Jim Ingram 1-day Open Seminar PENTJAK SILAT - INDONESIAN SELF-DEFENSE Featuring Guru Besar Jim Ingram Pukulan Pentjak Silat Mustika Kweetang is an Indonesian martial art. The style is composed of multiple strikes, takedowns, sweeps, joint locks, grappling/wrestling, ground, knife, and stick fighting. This system is a combination of finesse, applying physics, knowledge of anatomy, and how energy is directed. The emphasis is on economy of motion and efficient self-defense. It is based upon maximum destructive output with minimum effort. Guru Ingram has been practicing (60+ years) and teaching this art for longer than most of us have been around, and moves better than most half his age. Don't miss this rare opportunity! DATE: APRIL 21, 2001 TIME: 10:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. WHERE: AURA Martial Arts 541 Pawtucket Ave. Pawtucket, RI COST: $65.00 Directions: From points south: 1: Follow I-95 North to Exit 25, off onto Ramp 2: Bear RIGHT onto Cemetery St., (in front of Bonaza Bus terminal) 3: Cemetery street leads into Frost St. as you continue straight ahead 4: Turn LEFT onto North Main St. (US-1) 5: As North Main St. ends at the Providence / Pawtucket line go right at the fork, this Pawtucket Ave. The entrance at 541 Pawtucket Ave. is right across from Colonial Toyota. Parking lot is at the South end of the building. The building itself is an old brick factory/office building. From points North: 1: Take 95 South to Exit 27 2: At Exit 27, turn off onto Ramp 3: At the end of the ramp continue straight for one block (on Cedar Street). 3: At the intersection of Cedar St. and George St. turn LEFT unto George St. This will take you over I-95. Continue ahead a few blocks (0.1 of a mile), you'll pass Ole St. Mary's on the right. 4: As George Street leads directly into it, bear LEFT on Pawtucket Ave. and proceed 1.2 miles to arrive at 541 Pawtucket Ave. Entrance is across from Colonial Toyota. Parking lot is at the South end of the building. The building itself is an old brick factory/office building. For more information: Contact Dave Boylan 401-737-1172 or Fred Fullerton 401-467-2183 or Travis Frink 401-823-5792. also see: www.angelfire.com/ri/Pukulan/index.html ------------------------------ From: "Jack Phon" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:22:36 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: what we did last week This email was delivered to you by The Free Internet, a Business Online Group company. http://www.thefreeinternet.net - --------------------------------------------------------------- Hi I'm a lurker, so I thought I'd contribute with what I did last week... Monday - trained in garage with mates. Did 2 hours of Muay Thai pad work, and 30 minutes of bamboo cane kicking. Practised some knife defenses and drills as well. Tuesday - did some kickboxing. Worked a lot on the heavy bag. Almost got KO'd by some 200 pound monster (I'm only 120 lbs) but managed to bob and weave quite well. Wednesday - decided to give a new club a go. Got twatted round the head by an axe handle by mistake by instructor during a demonstration - was not impressed with his lack of control. Did some knife throwing to calm down. Wrecked my knife, and realised that it's not that easy to get the bladed end to hit the target. Thursday - did some stick sparring. Only single stick as we're not that advanced. We tried to concentrate on flow, and to add low kicks when in close. Next we thought we'd have a laugh and sparred unarmed but in our armour full force. There's quite an adrenaline rush when you put in the knees and see your opponent get knocked back a few steps. Friday - had a 3 half pounders to aid my weight training. Saturday - Muay Thai and Kali sparring. Tried some stick vs unarmed sparring (with safety gear). It basically involved the unarmed guy trying to grapple to stick guy without getting hit first. Took some photos for self-defense book which we're writing. Couldn't keep a straight face, so will have to pass the book off as comedy if we can't get our act together. Oh - could anyone recommend a publisher? We've found an interested American firm but would prefer a UK based one. Jack. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 7:21:48 PDT Subject: eskrima: cutting practice New thread... What type of materials do you use for cutting practice? i.e. using your carry knife, fighting knife, keris, etc, how do you practice cuts, actually using the blade. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 9:04:28 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #174 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.