From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #196 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 24 April 2001 Vol 08 : Num 196 In this issue: eskrima: Re:Hock eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #195 eskrima: Thanks! eskrima: Mr. I's eskrima: a stupid grin eskrima: Sad but True story eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Maudal Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 08:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re:Hock Howdy All! Just been perusing all of the postings on this Mr. Hock fellow. Has anybody out there ever seen him move? According to his ad, he teaches FMA and "commando" - like techniques... "like"?! What exactly does he profess, and who does he come from? Just Curious, Bothvar the beligerant __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: igarta@iwon.com Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:38:20 -1000 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #195 >Hi all, > >I am living in Japan and am having difficulty finding a decent supplier of >training sticks. Therefore I am looking into synthetic sticks that should >last longer. I want something as close to possible as rattan or hardwood and >I am leaning towards the Jeff Finder Stickman line of products. > >Before I purchase anything I thought I would just ask for opinions on these >or other training sticks going around. Also training knives? I notice the >sharkee once seem to be fairly popular. > >Opinions privately or to the list are welcome! >Tanukidog@excite.com > >Regards, >Troy >Kali Illustrisimo I & I Sports makes a nice pair of synthetic sticks. I also had a pair from Jeff Finder, very nice and lighter than the ones from I & I. Visit iWon today for a chance to win $25 Million! Click here - http://www.iwon.com ------------------------------ From: Georgios Christou Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Thanks! Thanks to all the guys who have replied to me either privately or on the list for the resources on Dumog. Excellent stuff, and so I have a lot of reading to do now! Thanks again, George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "q" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:07:20 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Mr. I's Well here is something funny on Sifu Dan. A small pack of kids from PV who used to go to the filipino kali academy towards the end of his school teaching years never called him guro or sifu. We could not break the habit of calling him Mr. I and the academy was just called "Mr. I's". He taught mostly JunFan at the the time since the Sigung Lee influence was big. FMA was second fiddle in that to the lower classes contact stickfighting did not exist so contact kickboxing was a more functional emphasis. It was not until later in ones's career that the stick contact was put in and then a balance of stick to empty hand. Today you will still hear really old students l call him Sifu not Guro. In FMA class we are supposed to call him Guro and JunFan call him Sifu but we just weren't that smart. The small PV gang all started when one of our little bretheren started showing Mr. I his cool kata's. Mr. I said he should come see his place then we all started going. We got to hit each other with sticks and we all gave up ice hockey (accidental on purpose hitting) so we could concentrate on just the hitting. In the 70's Mr I's was big stuff. A few years later we are all in PV High. One of the guys got into a fist fight with one of the "hot" jocks in PV high school. He happened to be the best of our class from Mr. I's and just destroyed the jock. We all got instant reputations and if we just looked at someone funny they would back down. Those where the days. A good rep was everything. There was no BJJ or competative martial art just the concepts of JKD which later revolutionized the way MA looks today. BJJ is the 80-90's revolution that JKD was in the 60-70's. Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Redondo Beach, Ca. >From: Badger >Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:25:08 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: eskrima: Guro Dan Stories > >>From: DAHLDP@aol.com >>Subject: eskrima: Guro Dan's Public Teaching >> >> At least part of Guro Dan's public teaching career was at Malaga Cove >> Intermediate School on the Palos Verdes Peninsula. He used to carry a >> really beaten up, relatively short rattan stick to keep us in line. >> He was very well liked by the students but sometimes one of us would >> misbehave slightly, just to see if he would raise the stick. He never >> had to do more than that. I think I must have done that a few too > >Whoa, how long ago was that? That's funny! > >I'm a fan of Guro Dan stories, and have related one too many times ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:50:34 -0700 Subject: eskrima: a stupid grin A Howl of Greeting to All: Johnaleen wrote: > Do you think that the ultimate challenges and stick fighting in the park > without gear is any of a better example to the commando killer > streetfighter? what do pictures of black and blue men with only shorts on and > stupid grins on there faces tell children of today? or the way the martial arts > is projected on TV? remember kids learn by what they see not what there > told. What some see: 1) No judges: Look to yourself for evaluate the meaning of what and how you have done. 2) No referees: Even in the adrenal maelstrom of a stickfight, look to yourself to control yourself. 3) No trophies: The reason to do is not external recognition, but for the value of the experience to you. 4) "One rule only, Be Friends at the end of the Day". The purpose is not to damage other human beings, but rather for the tribe to become stronger. 5) "The greater the dichotomy, the profounder the transformation. Higher Consciousness through Harder Contact."(c) For better or worse, the deepest learning comes in the adrenal state. The more one experiences composure while operating in the extremes, the more one is transformed. the stupidly grinning Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Sad but True story A sad but true story. Ran across this article today. Same applies to Korea and Thailand, and so forth. McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 8:11:12 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #196 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.