From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #207 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 30 April 2001 Vol 08 : Num 207 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #206 eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #206 eskrima: A Noble Response eskrima: Tom Bisio eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Seraksatu@aol.com Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:07:17 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #206 Selamat mr. Klampfer: In teaching and absorbing, my years studiing engineering and average 4 year of studies. The time to gain the PhD was hard, simply time was the key element. It is definite Hours also, Curriculem and the way folks proceed. In our school it is for all the Knife, sticks, hand to hand in Silat. Average person that spend 50 hours (on record) per month in absorbing will have the curriculem done in three years. Some who spend 25 hours per month, takes six years. It is the student who take that on. What makes a system work. 1. the Student, 2 teacher, and 3. Information. It takes all three to make it work. Teacher and student working on the information to progress to gain Instructor or a persons ability to guide others. It takes an average 6 hours per week to really obtain and retain knowledge. And is forgotten soon enough if not kept. Allowing the student to Video Tape the Class is a great help for their training. Always remember secrets are as far as the doorstep. The system becomes important, and the person teaching it. So I allow the student to film, to progress his/her growth. With the instilled philosophy that no art achieve higher expectation over any one art that is different, and that all arts are the same. Universal principles in humans are the same movements, only presented and precieved a different way. A thousand ways leading to one door. There is no different Ouch! in a Chinese, Indonesian or Phillipino or American Ouch! receving and connecting a hit. From my years in teaching from 1960, it was many that came different times. I spend time with those who show the initiative to learn, made it a joy to teach. It takes then with the hours, three years to do the curriculem in Sera and the fine tune the teachings and movements with the years. That is that project, So, the final take on all of this one would never finish learning, it is always hoped that the Student, meaning Your self, stays the student of life. Teaching others is the key to fine tune yourself. So to say it takes, one or three years or five years or even ten can be misleading. It is the individual, not the teacher that can determine what one absorbs. And the teacher that can see and determines the progress. ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:46:52 -0500 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #206 << I had the pleasure of attending a 6-hour seminar taught by GM Cacoy Canete yesterday here in San Jose. As usual he was in phenomenal form and shared a great deal with us. Our friend Tommy "The Whip" Meadows was promoted by Manong Cacoy to 6th Grade Black Belt after the seminar, so he is now Master Tommy The Whip... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com >> Congrats to "Master Whip" :-) I'll be seeing GM Cacoy this coming weekend (May 5) in Dayton, Ohio. If anyone is going to be near Dayton that weekend, check out the "Events" section of our school's website, http://www.asianfightingarts.com/ and I hope to see some of you there. Regards, Mike ------------------------------ From: "al sardinas" Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:40:53 -0400 Subject: eskrima: A Noble Response Keith, After reading your response to what I wrote I can see that I was dead wrong regarding my first thoughts about you. And I fault myself in hastily sending them to the digest. I hope you will accept this apology and I wish you well in your future martial art training. You are a better man than me! Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: "al sardinas" Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:52:46 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Tom Bisio For the brief period I was able to attend Tuhon Gaje's classes on 14th Street in Manhattan, I was exposed to many senior students/instructors of the Pekiti-Tirsia system to whom I forget their names except one, Tom Bisio. I did not know Tom as a teacher then but as a highly skilled practioner. Among the other Tuhon Gaje's students, my observations were that Tom was the best. Tom was not the strongest and maybe not the fastest but he consistently outclassed everyone. When Tuhon left for Texas (I think) I came to know Tom as the teacher. James mentioned me being modest well when it comes to modesty, Tom would be considered tops in that department. Besides his knowledge I always found Tom to be a well-mannered and a considerate person. The late Master Filemon Canete made the perfect choice in having Tom Bisio head San Miguel Eskrima. I have not met all the certified instructors under Tom, but having met two of them, James and Vinh, the system is in good hands. The San Miguel Eskrima lives as does Tom's attributes in its instructors. Respectfully, Al Sardinas Student of Garimot System of Arnis ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 7:58:40 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #207 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.