From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #211 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 3 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 211 In this issue: eskrima: Tom Bisio eskrima: NAAKESC STICK FIGHT MOVE BACK eskrima: Inayan Eskrima camp in TN eskrima: TKD, etc. eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Mike Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:59:15 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Tom Bisio In the late 70's and early 80's it was Tom Bisio and Erwin Ballarta who traded the championship trophy at Pekiti-Tirsia tournaments back and forth. I remember Tom as the best all around athlete in the group and an excellent instructor. Most guys would hit you with just a few of their favorite techniques, but Tom would hit you with everything he knew and made it look effortless. With just three years training in Pekiti, Tom went on to win the instructor's division (5 to 19 years experience) in first national tournament in the Philippines in 1979. His students include Eric "Top Dog" Knaus and Jeff Kelly (martial arts coordinator on many of Wesley Snipes' films). Since Tuhon Gaje had only daughters back then, those of us training in the 70's expected Leo to pass leadership of the system on to either Tom or Erwin. In the 80's Tom got more into other arts, and doesn't teach much Pekiti these days, but I still consider him one of the best instructors and fighters Tuhon Gaje has produced. Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath PS. Just a reminder that Dr. Gyi is teaching his close quarters UN Baton course this Saturday in Fishkill, NY. For more info visit the PTI web site at: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/index.html ------------------------------ From: ARNISTE@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 03:56:46 EDT Subject: eskrima: NAAKESC STICK FIGHT MOVE BACK Meownews to all, The Upcoming NAAKESC Rated Stick Fight has move in June 17th,2001. There is added Division/Welterweight Division=135lbs-159lbs. Registration Fee is $60.00 per fighter,Cash award is $200.00 per Champ. Location is still the same for more information pls. contact: Arniste@aol.com/ http://catsociety.freeservers.com DVT ACADEMY of ASIAN MARTIAL ARTS/http://www.serak.com ------------------------------ From: "Tom Skoglind" Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 07:31:06 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Inayan Eskrima camp in TN Last week, April 23-28, the first annual ISI training camp was held in Knoxville, TN. Five guros of Inayan Eskrima shared their knowledge and skills with participants from around the US and France. While the focus was on training, there was a good amount of social time to get to know and bond with fellow Eskrimadors, many of whom had never met. Once again, the Guros and students of Inayan Eskrima all came together with an open atmosphere of camaraderie and brotherhood. There were no egos or attitudes - only a week of learning and sharing. While the bulk of material presented revolved around Serrada and Kadena de Mano, there were segments on many other styles within Inayan, including Siniwali, Larga Mano and Spada y Daga. It was both an honor and a pleasure to train with such high caliber martial artists, both students and Guros. Thanks to Masirib Guro Steve Klement and all of his students who took a great deal of time to host an outstanding training camp! Tom Skoglind tskoglin@schmitt-title.com www.inayaneskrima.com Inayan Systems International ------------------------------ From: kalkiusa@netscape.net Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:34:50 -0400 Subject: eskrima: TKD, etc. I've held back comments re: TKD and fighting but decided, "What the hey, say it." My own background includes 6 years of continuous (daily) training in Korean martial arts as well as 7 years pursuing kung fu, sometimes 6 hours a day, 5 days a week (did I hear someone say "Divorce city" ? :-) NEway ... an issue to conffront when considering any type of training is the degree of similarity btwn the training and the fighting methods. Go to a TKD school that emphasizes forms practice and more forms practice (with forms as the foundation for progression thru the grades) and find yoursel fin a bad situation. A commercial TKD school is not the only place where this can happen. If a school involves heavy forms practice and the forms do not generalize to freefighting ... well, don't need a PhD in MA to know that there's a problem in that equation. Except for exercises related to pure fitness and foundation strength/etc., all training methods should translate into the mix of the sc! rap. Otherwise it's wasted training ... maybe good for fitness but possibly (most likely) contradictory to success in fighting. Systems in which training looks the same as fighting are the best way to go. The paired fighting forms and drills of kung fu, FMA, Muay Thai, etc. are perfect examples. The training should mimic the fighting application. The fighting should utilize the training. The more direct the relationship btwn training and fighting the better. I've known two Korean masters/grandmasters who knew this but didn't teach it. Once in awhile I'd catch some good advice from them which showed that they knew more than commercial TKD. This "other side" is not as easily marketed though because it requires greater attention to the student and greater attention on the part of the student. One grandmaster, encouraging me to teach TKD for him once said: "Your kung fu, people think it's too hard to learn all dose things ... tae kwon do is easy-ah for dem." he was also! a master of Northern Mantis Kung Fu ... offered that to me but otherwise did not teach it. We chuckled about "all that stop and go stuff." Hang around someone like that long enuf and the picture of TKD changes. Very much like Northen (long range) Chinese martial arts. At his level, watch him apply his knowledge and the picture of TKD becomes very different ... nothing like the tournament stuff ... and not something to stand in the way of. Definite Dragon. Mitakeyu Oyasin. Be well, Mik __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:42:14 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #211 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.