From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #238 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 19 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 238 In this issue: eskrima: FYI eskrima: VeeArnis Jitsu eskrima: Re: Snipes Masters BOUNCE eskrima: Admin request eskrima: Good day philosophy eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:01:58 PDT Subject: eskrima: FYI Forwarded message: Consumer Group Says Stay Away From Sports Supplements May 16, 2001 BOSTON (Boston Globe) - There's only one reasonable response to all the conflicting advice on sports supplements, America's leading consumer journal says: Stop taking them. That is because evidence is ``sketchy at best'' that the pills, drinks and powders actually increase energy or build muscles, said Consumer Reports. More important, too little is known about their safety for adults and even less for children. The final reason it issued its dire warning, the publication says, is that the government doesn't police sports supplements the way it does other medicines and foods. Consumer Reports isn't the first to go after sports supplements. But its alarm is the most far-reaching, covering products ranging from androstenedione, a steroid made famous by slugger Mark McGwire, to creatine, an amino acid that's in meat and fish. And it reaches more than 4 million readers, many of whom consider it the bible on safety and efficacy, so its unequivocal advice could deal a serious blow to the $1.4 billion industry. David Rosenthal, head of Harvard University Health Services, thinks a warning like the one issued Monday should be heeded by coaches, parents and athletes. ``It's time for us to say `No,''' he argues. ``These things aren't regulated, they are very erratic in their content from one batch to another ... and they could perhaps be causing great danger.'' But Patrick Rea, research director at Nutrition Business Journal, said the broadside will affect mainly casual users - not the 1.2 million body builders, trainers and other regulars who spend an average of $350 a month on the supplements. ``Sure, this big announcement may have some effect on sales,'' predicts Rea. ``But I don't think in any way it will be the downfall of the industry.'' That industry has been surging in recent years, and reaching ever-younger athletes who can get it in more and more mass merchandise stores. All of which is why Consumer Reports decided to conduct its own review of what it called the ``few good scientific studies'' available. Androstenedione, commonly called andro, ``flunked the two most rigorous studies of its efficacy,'' according to the consumer journal. In both, men who didn't take the steroid gained just as much muscle and strength as those who did, and it produced increases in harmful blood-cholesterol and in the female hormone estrogen. Research on creatine was more hopeful, showing it enhances performance in sports like high jumping and weight lifting that require brief, intense bursts of strength. But, the report says, it did not improve endurance and its long-term effects are totally unknown. ``I was stunned at how vigorously these products had been marketed based on little or no good scientific information,'' says Nancy Metcalf, a senior editor at Consumer Reports and author of the paper. The result, she writes, is that ``people who take these products are actually conducting what amounts to a vast, uncontrolled clinical experiment on themselves with untested, largely unregulated medications.'' The supplements investigated did not include sports drinks, such as Gatorade, that replenish fluids lost from exercise or athletic competition. Dr. Marvin Lipman, the publication's medical consultant, said the group could have recommended a more narrow rejection of sports supplements but ``there's no way in advance you can predict who's going to have an adverse reaction ... so we absolutely decided to err on the side of caution. ``The first step is go get the word out there that these things can be dangerous,'' he adds. ``The second thing I would like to do is put bans on the sale of the stuff to minors.'' But Dr. Scott Connelly, founder of the supplement manufacturer MET-Rx Engineered Nutrition, says that over the last decade there have been a series of studies showing that sports supplements ``produce benefits for everyone from naive subjects just entering sports conditioning programs to elite athletes at the pinnacle of development.'' Independent specialists on nutritional supplements had mixed reactions to the warning by Consumer Reports. While he would have focused more on supplements containing ephedra, a natural stimulant that is alleged to cause heart and other complications, he understands the broader concerns raised, says Dr. Gary I. Wadler, medical adviser to the White House Drug Policy Office and the World Anti-Doping Agency. So little is known about their long-term health effects, he explains, ``that any of these supplements represent to me a Faustian bargain where the payback is way down the road.'' But Charles Yesalis, professor of health and human development at Pennsylvania State University, says his 22 years of researching athletic doping convince him that the kind of warning issued by CU is ``going overboard.'' Youngsters should be steered away from many supplements, he says, but things like protein shakes and multivitamins are OK. As for adults, taken in proper doses supplements like creatine are not necessarily bad. Whatever the experts say, many elite athletes insist they have read the studies and know what is safe for them. The alarm sounded by Consumer Reports will ``have no effect at all on me because I've definitely seen the gains from supplements like protein and creatine,'' says Scott Cotter, 30, a professional trainer at Gold's Gym in Boston. ``Long-term we have no idea their effect but we have no idea about the long-term effects of products like NutraSweet.'' ------------------------------ From: moviola Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:18:54 -0400 Subject: eskrima: VeeArnis Jitsu Hi all, does anyone know about the main Veearnis Jitsu school in lower Manhattan? I donšt know much about the system other than what Išve read in books. How does it compare to other styles and is it still good now that Professor Vee has passed away? Thanks! ------------------------------ From: Joshua Hutchinson Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Snipes Masters Yes, I will admit that I made the mistake of watching "Masters." Wesley Snipes looked mighty weird... Looks like he gained about 80 lbs, grew about 1/2 a foot and... Wait a second, that wasn't Wesley at all. Exactly where was Wesley hosting this ceremony from? Maybe he was hosting it in spirit. Looked like "I'm gonna get you sucka!" meets the Globe awards. Anyway, it was good for a few laughs. Four winds, Jhutchin _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:40:18 PDT Subject: BOUNCE eskrima: Admin request Forwarded message: From eskrima-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Fri May 18 20:16:27 2001 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:44:42 EDT Subject: Garimot Arnis/Buno Seminar in Caracas, Venezuela Hello, I just want to inform those subscribe from Venezuela. I will be giving a Seminar in Caracas, on June 9-10, 2001. Seminar will focus on Garimot Arnis (Single Stick, Double Stick, Espada y Daga and Knife Fighting) and Harimaw Buno ( the Seven Animal Mounted and Reversal, Siete Mano Teros, Siete Sikadas, Biyabit at Lampaso, the flow of Trankadas). I hope to see you there again and bring a friends, if you need more info contact the Garimot representative in Caracas, Venezuela. Maestro Yuri Jimenez Tel: 016-710-9134 Representative of Garimot System of Arnis de Mano (Caracas, Venezuela) Open to all style and a Martial Arts. Salamat, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:42:31 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Good day philosophy In keeping with our philosophy thread started by the Paul Harvey quote, here is one from Mother Theresa. I keep a copy above my desk. I'm sure other list members have a philosophical quote that really hits home with them. What is yours? Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath Visit the PTI web site at: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/index.html Mother Theresa had this on her wall.... People are often unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered -- Forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives -- Be kind anyway. If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies -- Succeed anyway. If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you -- Be honest and frank anyway. What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight -- Build anyway. If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous -- Be happy anyway. The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow -- Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough -- Give the world the best you've got anyway. You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and God -- It never was between you and them anyway. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 6:45:48 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #238 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.