From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #245 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 29 May 2001 Vol 08 : Num 245 In this issue: eskrima: quote...well more of a story eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #244 Autolock eskrima: Action Flex & Fencing Mask eskrima: Actionflex eskrima: Monadnock+ eskrima: action-flex (some pro, some con) eskrima: Autolock=where get ? eskrima: Filipino and Indonesian Knife Clinic eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stickgrappler Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:48:35 -0400 Subject: eskrima: quote...well more of a story A philosophy professor stood before his class and had some items in front of him. When class began, he wordlessly picked up a large empty mayonnaise jar. He proceeded to fill it with rocks, rocks about 2 inches in diameter. He then asked the students if the jar was full. They agreed that it was. So the professor then picked up a box of small pebbles and poured them into the already "full" jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open areas between the rocks. The students laughed. The professor next picked up a box of sand and poured it into the already twice-over "full" jar. Of course, the sand filled up the rest of the space. "Now," said the professor, "I want you to recognize that this is your life. The rocks are the important things ---your education, your loves, your personal ideals and goals, your God, your health, your family--- anything that is so important to you that you would be nearly destroyed if it were lost. The pebbles are the other things that matter, like your job, your house, your possessions. Then, the sand is everything else. The small stuff and daily clutter of life. If you put the sand into the jar first, there is no room for the pebbles or the rocks." "The same goes for your life. If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never have room for the things that are really important to you. Pay attention to the things that are critical to your happiness..... Put your ideals in place and form a plan for achieving them. Play with your children. Take time to get medical checkups. Go out dancing. Make time to laugh and love. Sit down often for long family meals. Enjoy the holidays. Try always to keep your life in focus. You will find that there still is time to go to work, wax the car, watch a show on television, pay the bills, or fix the air conditioner." "Take care of the rocks first, the things that really matter. Set your priorities. The rest is just sand." From Stephen Covey's FIRST THINGS FIRST "Stickgrappling is a bit like a pinball game when 3 balls get going. There is the grappling, the stickfighting, and the stickgrappling all going on at once and what is sound in one, may be quite vulnerable in the context of one or both of the others." - Guro Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Gdog Gdog G Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:21:12 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #244 Autolock I agree with what's already been said about the Autolock series from Monadnock. It's a great baton, and I carry it on duty. One of the things no one has mentioned so far is that if you accidentally strike a solid object with friction lock style baton, the friction bond is broken, and the baton can collapse in your hand at the most inopportune moment. This doesn't happen with an Autolock. Tap an Autolock and friction lock baton together a few times. The Autolock stays functional, and the friction locks collapse most of the time. Try it. Most of my fellow officers are converts for this reason alone. Friction lock batons also tend to fail when thrusting. It just about impossible to collapse an Autolock when thrusting. They have a nice positive lock in the open position, and you have to depress the release to get it to close. The Autolocks are more expensive, but it's money well spent. Regards, Sarge ------------------------------ From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:14:41 EDT Subject: eskrima: Action Flex & Fencing Mask Hey Ray, About a month and a half ago a few of my students and myself participated in a Chanbara Tournament (Japanese Rules Point Sparing) at UC Berkeley. We fought in the Katana Length weapon, Bo staff, and Yari/Naginata (Spear/Halbered)divisions. As for training devices I think they are great as long as you keep in mind their limitations and intended use. You can strike someone full blast with these sparing weapons and not cause pain (even without protective gear). They also hold their form well if you use them like the weapons they represent.High speed witiks and abanikos cause the weapons to bend and slow up the response. They are perfect for fully comited lobtik hits and they make a satisfying wack on contact.Great stuff for introducing begginers to point sparing. I also think there head gear works perfect with their weapons. You can still make someones ears ring with a good head shot though. They also have firmer escrima sticks that do have some bite to them. I had a great time playing one of the Chanbara Instructors in both single stick and double stick. These are the best commercial padded sticks I have played with. I personally like to use 1/2" and 3/4" rattan with with pipe insulation (The kind from home depot. Then tapped up with strapping tape (Not electrical or duct)) for most of my sparring. The light padding keeps the respect for the stick and can still crush in a fencing mask with a good hit. I am heading in the direction of full contact stickfighting though I know this type of training does not work for all my students. The northern california contineous padded stick fighting and point sparing scene uses a thicker padded stick and use moidfied Tae Kwon Do headgear for their tournaments and sparing. The gear consist of a standard Tae Kwon Do head gear with a football plastic face shiels and plastic bars. (Meatal bars will eventualy break and bend easily from attacks.) I do like the Action Flex Equipment and the Chanbara Sport and would recommend them to anyone looking for new alternatives for their training or teaching. Elrik Jundis Co-Director School of Pilipino Mastery Arts www.pilipinoma.com www.angelsdisciples.com ps. Ray, I have footage if you want to see it. From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 8:25:45 PDT Subject: eskrima: ActionFlex ? Anyone have experience with the 'Full-Contact Weaponry' from ActionFlex? htp://www.actionflex.com Pro or con? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: DAHLDP@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:20:01 EDT Subject: eskrima: Actionflex Guro Inosanto has used some Actionflex equipment with his students and a lot of them really like it. I have probably ordered several dozen pieces for folks and am very impressed with the people who run Actionflex. They are knowledgeable, helpful, prompt, and accomodating. For example, if you want a group of sticks built stiffer than normal, they will usually offer to do it for you. People I know have used the 28 and 31 inch pro series eskrima sticks quite a bit and they are holding up well. Although nobody has had to avail themselves of it, Actionflex has an excellent guarantee. We have also used the 40 inch sword, the 6 ft Yari, the 6 ft Naginata, and the Nunchakus. The Nunchakus are a lot of fun and you can hit very hard without injury. The worst we have seen is some surface bruising. The one piece of equipment that didn't receive as great a reception is the 5 ft staff. There is nothing wrong with its construction, but the need for the padding to cover a substantial portion of its length makes it more difficult to manipulate. The 6 ft Yari & Naginata (which are very similar to each other) can be used quite effectively for single-end staff sparring. I'm just a student so you should solicit opinions from those with more experience. However, the students I know like the Actionflex equipment a lot. Dave Dahl. ------------------------------ From: kalkiusa@netscape.net Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:53:38 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Monadnock+ Thanks to Tuhon McGrath and Dave Dahl for feedback re: the Monadnock Autolock. Now I have to find out if they're legal for civilians in Bamaland (Aiya, I'm still here!;-) On a related note ... rather than using the tool that I would carry (e.g., ASP or Monadnock ... I don'like the ASP batons BTW) I use varying diameters and lengths of both wood and polycarbonate sticks on a canvas-covered 6 foot heavybag. Smacking the low end of the bag is like hitting concrete ... the stick can bounce off sometimes when I tire ... and I kick the danged thing, must be crazy! Naw, I've found that lowering the body to change the way that I contact the bag eliminates the pain ... the contact involves greter shin surface area instead of the instep. NEway, re: the sticks, I try the approach of using heavier tools in training than I would use in fighting. Working more slowly with the heavier stuff ... those joints have to last a lifetime, eh? Mitakeyu Oyasin. Be well, Mik __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Charles E. Dulin" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:23:34 -0400 Subject: eskrima: action-flex (some pro, some con) Decent gear for drilling and introducing sparring; it is lighweight and forgiving. On the down side it is VERY flexible so a heavy shot will power through almost any block. The sticks have a very "dead" feel; they simply do not move or respond like rattan (or foam-padded rattan for that matter). They are a good tool, but more for supplemental drills and introducing students who are new, timid, or simply can not afford a hand injury to contact work. Some hand protectection is still in order, the seams on the nylon cover can cut (I learned this the hard way). Also, the gear is so forgiving that it can quickly lead to lazy habits. The price tag is kind of steep, but they offer a decent instructor discount and the products are guaranteed for life. ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Autolock=where get ? OK, I am sold on this baton autolock. Where get it ? McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Dave & Heather Fulton" Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:21:32 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Filipino and Indonesian Knife Clinic The Full Contact Martial Arts Association will present a half day clinic focusing on the knife-fighting strategies and tactics of these two blade oriented martial arts. You will also be taught drills designed to develop the skills necessary to use a knife. The clinic will be taught by David Wink, a former student of Pekiti-tirsia Kali's Grand Tuhon Leo T. Gaje and Pentjak Silat's Suyardi "Eddie" Jafri. David Wink has spent the last 20+ years developing what he learned from Gaje and Jafri, among, others in the "laboratory" of full-contact fighting. Date: Saturday, June 9, 2001. Time: 1 PM to 4:30 PM Where: Central Maryland Martial Arts Frederick, MD Price: $20 for the general public and $10 for CMMA students. Equipment: A training knife (or small stick) and eye protection. Contact Dave Fulton at dhfulton@prodigy.net for more information or to register in advance. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 6:34:35 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #245 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.