From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #296 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 30 June 2001 Vol 08 : Num 296 In this issue: eskrima: Re: silat vs fma eskrima: Painful kick eskrima: one possible answer eskrima: Filipino Martial Arts magazine eskrima: Re: Hardcore training eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Pentjakker" Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:46:40 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: silat vs fma On the silat vs. FMA a little to add and just an observation is that silat and fma have alot overlap in their motion and techniques but FMA seems to place more emphasis on drills perhaps. Is this an American convention? I.e knife tapping drills of FMA, the same or similar motions are there in silat but in my experience they're not put together in a repeating drill format as in some FMA's. Any thoughts on this? Regards, Travis ------------------------------ From: "Pentjakker" Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 13:22:15 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Painful kick Did everyone see that mpeg were the Muay Thai boxer breaks both his tibia and fibia?! eewwW.... =*^O ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 10:52:05 -0700 Subject: eskrima: one possible answer Kenjo asked: "I am currently teaching knife fighting drills/sparring to my students and some senior students have expressed their opinion that it would be good for the art if we would allow 'outsiders' (members of other martial arts) to observe this particular activity. "I have some reservations on this and would respectfully solicit comments from those instructors teaching knife fighting concepts/techniques - do you allow non-members of your club/school to observe this particular activity? why or why not?" Good question. I offer for your consideration the approach I use: There are two types of training: 1) The type that most everyone has seen. Lots of disarms, drills etc. There's oodles of variations out there, and most are well worth the studying. But then there is , , , 2) The other stuff. Type 2 is not for observers, nor for people one does not know well. Indeed some Filipinos may have developed Type 1as a way of hiding the existence of Type 2. In a conversation I once had with a knife maker, he spoke against the notion of secrecy with regard to knife in a world of guns, i.e. if you wanted to kill someone you could just go out and buy a gun. Its a logical point, but I disagreed and still do. To my way of thinking, type 2 training runs the real risk of exposing cracks in the personality to temptations of evil too great to resist. Type 2 training changes the personality and only people suitable for it should receive it. Woof, Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 12:49:21 PDT Subject: eskrima: Filipino Martial Arts magazine Forwarding... Now you can see the current issue of Filipino Martial Arts magazine displayed on the website http://www.filipinomag.com plus other information of interest. The current articles are also listed under the current issue link. ------------------------------ From: Kes41355@aol.com Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 17:55:18 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Hardcore training In a message dated 6/30/01 8:52:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << A week or so back there was a short thread re the lack of hardcore/hardcontact FMA training these days. Too bad you missed Mike Inay, RIP. He eased up during the time we were in a commercial school, but in the backyard or in privates he was as hardcore as you wanted, or could handle. >> Hi Ray, I can certainly second that, Ray. My training with Mike was infrequent, but I did study for a long time with one of Mike's Guros, and we trained this way as a matter of course. We have worked out with students of other FMA schools here in the area, and to put it mildly, are able to handle them with ease. Everyone we have encountered have been unable to handle the way we were taught to hit, and I give full credit to the way Mike developed his art, and the way it is carried on by his Guros. Kim Satterfield ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 19:47:12 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #296 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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