From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #314 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 12 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 314 In this issue: eskrima: Dogs eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #312 eskrima: Tyre work eskrima: FMA Movie/Ernie Reyes Jr eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #313 eskrima: Inayan Systems International in Knoxville, TN eskrima: FMA in Movies eskrima: Re: Why the Moros wore red (and why I wear brown) eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "C. Herrman" Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:57:29 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Dogs Thanks for sharing your thoughts about about training with dogs. So far it sounds like early, controlled exposure to MA training is a good way to go & not problematic in most cases. Perhaps grappling is problematic b/c it most closely resembles the nature of a dog fight? I hadn't considered the dog's ability to empathize as the main determinant in how it responds to a threat. I was (mistakenly) limiting my thinking to visual perception. Makes sense - IME many dogs are much more in tune with human emotions than people are. Regarding Guro Crafty's comment "Training such as other breeds are put through, is not only unnecessary, but is a MISTAKE..." Mas Ayoob strongly cautions against "attack" dog training. He suggested "protection" dog training (by a professional) in some cases, but in general felt that a well trained / well treated dog would instinctively protect it's owner & family. Cheers, Chris H. ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 01:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #312 << From: Bladewerkr@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:49:24 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #311 Anyone aware of any FMA instructors or practioners in the border area of North and South Carolina? I am about halfway between Greeneville/Spartanburg SC and Asheville, NC. I understand there are some Pekita Tirsia folks in Myrtle Beach but that is about hrs away. I also hear thet theres a PT school along with an Inyan Escrima group in Knoxville, TN. I could make it there occasionally but it would be neat if there is someone closer. Thanks, Be Well, Bear >> Hi Bear, Bobby Taboada is (or was the last time I heard) in Charlotte (I believe), NC. Can someone else verify this? Regards, Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Hutchins, Jamie" Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 07:02:29 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Tyre work Hi, Here I am again looking for advice. I've read in several places that FMA'ers practice by 'hitting the tyres'. I also heard Rick Faye say it recently at a seminar (which was bloody amazing by the way) and warning us to keep a set of tyre sticks separate as they get covered in crud . So without soliciting any sarcastic replies telling me to begin jacking my neighbours car up onto bricks.... a) How do you use the tyres to supplement your training? Is it kind of like the heavy bag is for boxing? b) Do you fix the tyres together, suspend them, attach them to a wall or what? Anyone have a 'tyre target' construction plan? c) Do you use normal rattan sticks - I seem to smash mine without much difficulty just in class... is tyre hitting a sure fire way of ruining what remains of my credit rating? d) I've also heard of hitting 'the poles' I think in one of the Dog Bros videos (maybe the Sinawalli one). Is this literally going out and letting loose on some like scaffolding poles or is there more to it? As usual any advice would be totally appreciated. Respectfully, Jamie ------------------------------ From: Plumador@aol.com Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 04:48:08 EDT Subject: eskrima: FMA Movie/Ernie Reyes Jr Don't know if anybody mentioned it yet, but Ernie Reyes Jr recently released a movie called the Ultimate Fight. Believe me. This movie has plenty of FMA. The movie isn't great, but all the FMA featured in the movie totally makes it worth watching. It actually starts off with a Death Match in the beginning, includes a balisong fight. Lots of good FMA shit. Also, Arnis was never meant to be used for fair play. I have seen one fight where 2 very good eskrimadors beat the fuck out of an unarmed guy who did not know Martial Arts at all. Yes, they both used sticks and it was very brutal and unfair. The Ultimate fight actually has an Arnis scene, that follows this concept. ------------------------------ From: "Hutchins, Jamie" Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:49:36 -0400 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #313 Dear Ms J, A little bit of internet detective work also gave me the name of Guro Chow but obviously I had no idea who he was. I am most grateful for your seal of approval and will get my bro to contact him. As if I wasn't jealous enough of him living in Melbourne and having a great job now I get to send him to an Eskrima legend... I'll have to fly out and slap him around (for his own good of course) before its too late. Seriously though thank you for your help. Jamie From: "johnaleen" Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 19:36:38 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: FMAs in Melbourne? Hi Jamie..... the link below will take you to the bios of one of my teachers, he has been listed on the organizations Masters Bio pages http://www.f-a-t-e.org/Bios/masters%20Bios/Masters.html listed here is the direct link to his personal bio.. http://www.f-a-t-e.org/Bios/masters%20Bios/jchow.html listed there you will find his phone number and address in Melbourne, i believe they teach a number of styles of FMA with there core being Illustrisimo He is one of only 3 authorized teachers of Illustrisimo Kali and Lameco Eskrima styles of Kali in Australia i believe as well , i think they also have a club at the local university there in Melbourne..... your brother will not lose out from training with their group. i am just the tiny bit jaded of course as the head instructor there can do no wrong in my book, the training i received from him had huge positive impacts on my training and life, you can send your brother there with no fears of him being under poor instruction or care.... Ms J.... bows deeply...... ------------------------------ From: "Michael Barnes" Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:17:46 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Inayan Systems International in Knoxville, TN > From: Bladewerkr@aol.com > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:49:24 EDT > Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #311 > > Anyone aware of any FMA instructors or practioners in the border area of > North and South Carolina? I am about halfway between Greeneville/Spartanburg > SC and Asheville, NC. I understand there are some Pekita Tirsia folks in > Myrtle Beach but that is about hrs away. I also hear thet theres a PT school > along with an Inyan Escrima group in Knoxville, TN. I could make it there > occasionally but it would be neat if there is someone closer. Thanks, Be > Well, > Bear > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ray Terry > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 8:39:57 PDT > Subject: eskrima: Inayan in Knoxville > > > Myrtle Beach but that is about hrs away. I also hear thet theres a PT school > > along with an Inyan Escrima group in Knoxville, TN. I could make it there > > occasionally but it would be neat if there is someone closer. Thanks, Be > > Masirib Guro Steve Klement, Inayan Systems International, is in Knoxville. > http://www.inayaneskrima.com. > > A great eskrima instructor! > > Ray Terry > raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com > > ------------------------------ Good Morning As Ray stated, Masirib Guro Steve Klement teaches here in Knoxville. As one of his students, feel free to email me any questions that you might have. Also you are welcome to come and visit us. We have classes in Knoxville on Wed at 7:00pm and Sat. morning at 10:00. We also have two classes in Lenoir City which are lead by Masirib Klement's brother, Katunlungan Guro Mike Klement, on Monday and Thursday at 7:00pm. Lenoir City is slightly West of Knoxville. Like I said if you have any questions or if you would like to come by please shoot me an email. Thanks Michael Barnes www.inayaneskrima.com mbarnes@nxs.net Inayan Systems International ------------------------------ From: Kendal Coats Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: FMA in Movies ""Stickfighter" with Roland Dantes and Dean Stockwell " Does anybody know where to get a copy of this movie, or have one they would copy for me? I would love to see "AL" from "Quantum Leap" in a martial arts movie. Also a heads up for us FMA guys. Sometime last year I heard that in the next Star Wars, Yoda will use escrima with two shortened light sabers. One writer stated that they couldnt very well have yoda carry a weapon that was longer than he was tall, so they settled on two short ones. In fact I thought that it was a some PT guy who did the fight scenes. Anyone else remember this? Peace __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "hudginsg" Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:48:54 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Why the Moros wore red (and why I wear brown) Having read (heard) that the Moros used to wear bright red so that if they were cut they would not notice the cut or loss of blood, I thought the following would be interesting to the group. Subject: Cpt. Bravado > > > > Once upon a time, there was an officer of the Royal Navy named Captain > Bravado who showed no fear when facing his enemies. One day, while > sailing > the Seven seas, his lookout spotted a pirate ship approaching, and the > crew > became frantic. Captain Bravado bellowed, "Bring me my red shirt!" > > The first mate quickly retrieved the captain's red shirt, and while > wearing the brightly colored frock, the Captain led his crew into battle > and > defeated the mighty pirates. > > That evening, all the men sat around on deck recounting the triumph of > earlier. One of them asked the Captain, "Sir, why did you call for your > red > shirt before battle?" > The Captain replied, "If I were to be wounded in the attack, the shirt > would > not show my blood. Thus, you men would continue to fight, unafraid." > > All of the men sat and marveled at the courage of such a manly man's > man. > As dawn came the next morning, the lookout spotted not one, not two, but > TEN > pirate ships approaching. The crew stared in worshipful silence at the > Captain and waited for his usual orders. > > Captain Bravado gazed with steely eyes upon the vast armada arrayed > against > his ship, and without fear, turned and calmly shouted, "Get me my brown > pants." ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:47:27 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #314 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.