From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #327 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 21 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 327 In this issue: eskrima: pointcebu eskrima: seminar eskrima: Staff/Spear eskrima: Chicago Silat seminar with Bob Orlando eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 eskrima: swords eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:58:23 PDT Subject: eskrima: pointcebu From the PointCebu website. Cebuano Arnis Cebuanos are noted for a native form of martial arts - the art of stick-fighting called olilisi or arnis. Olilisi derives from olisi or ulisi, "a cane or staff," while arnis probably derives from the Spanish arnes, which means "armor, hardness, or accessory." Stick-fighting also came to be called eskrima, from the Spanish esgrima or "fencing." It is said that Lapulapu, the hero of the battle of Mactan, was a master of the art of fighting with what the chronicler Antonio Pigafetta called a "fire-hardened" stick. Oral tradition tells of how Lapulapu could throw a pestle-sized stick right through a live coconut trunk, and of how he could outmaneuver using any of the "six variations" of the slash-and-thrust of the arnis. Local history says that the Spaniards found the art of stick-fighting so "brutal" that they banned it. Perhaps the reason for this was more a matter of security than reasons purely ethical. The art, however, survived in theater where it found a place in the fencing sequences of the play called linambay (or komedya, an elaborate spectacle based on European medieval romances) and in the ritual battle scenes of the drama-performance of the Sinulog, the Cebuano dance of worship. In 1932, Cebuano eskrimadores organized themselves into a group called Doce Pares, an evocation of the Twelve Peers of France. Founded by Lorenzo Saavedra and Filemon Canete, the organization has continued to this day. It has promoted this old form of martial arts which has through the efforts of masters like Ciriaco Canete, gained devoted adherents not only in the Philippines but also abroad. Reprinted from the book: Cebu: More Than an Island Lihok: Cebuano Performing Arts By: Jovi and Ma. Christina Juan ------------------------------ From: mccfamily@plexis.net (Dan McConnell) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:12:01 -0400 Subject: eskrima: seminar To ALL list members, Modern Arnis of Ohio will host a seminar with Guro Dan McConnell and Master of Tapi Tapi Ken Smith on Aug. 18, 2001 at The Hilliard Budo Center 3840 Lacon rd. Hilliard Ohio (a suburb of Columbus) from 10:am - 4:pm. Many aspects of Modern Arnis will be covered. Many questions can be answered. This will be a riotous team. Come have fun and learn alot. Please e-mail me if you would like a flyer sent to you. The cost is $50. in advance and $60. at the door. till then, Guro Dan McConnell Modern Arnis of Ohio ------------------------------ From: Rick Lindquist Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:26:18 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Staff/Spear Anybody on the list actively train staff and/or spear? I know Top Dog had some words recently about fighting against the bo. Can you (Top Dog) elaborate on that experience? Can anyone recommend especially good tapes? I have a couple of Kelly Worden's and would like to see others. My observations are that footwork is imperative (isn't it always?) in maintaining the range at which both staff and spear are effective. As soon as an educated player figures out that the entry is the thing then the footwork, especially the retreating/circular stuff, just has to work or the staff man pays dearly. Also, although both staff and spear are long range, there are immediately recognized differences depending on how much one has to respect the pointy end. Comments? Rick Lindquist ------------------------------ From: Sidney525@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:06:01 EDT Subject: eskrima: Chicago Silat seminar with Bob Orlando The Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago (Defensor Method) is proud to announce a Pentjak Silat and Kun Tao seminar with Bob Orlando August 4-5 in Chicago. For more information e-mail Sidney525@aol.com Thank you Sid ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer III Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:20:37 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 >Geez folks, can't we get off this Datu thing, yet again. Surely there is >something else FMA related that this list can occupy itself with other than >the appropriate/unappropriate use of titles. > >Howz this? Why is it that Crafty hits like a girl? :) > Since you brought it up, WHY does Crafty hit like a girl? ;) ------------------------------ From: "Stephen Lamade" Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 04:02:06 Subject: eskrima: swords Dear Jamie: I'm partial to a somewhat long pinute, given that I practice San Miguel Eskrima (www.eskrima.com). Likewise, your choice of sword will probably be dictated by the style of Filipino Martial Art that you practice, but in a pinch, a cheap machete bought at a hardware store can serve as a generic training weapon. It's heavier than an aluminum sword, and you have the option of either keeping it sharp or dulling the edge with a file. IMHO you should start slowly with a dull edge, and work up from there. I think you'll find that, sharp edge or not, you'll practice much more S L O W L Y with a heavier weapon - and pay more carefull attention to your angles and body mechanics. You'll also be more conscious of cutting with a blade vs. striking with a stick - both can be good for different reasons. This is cheap advice from someone who once wacked the inside of his knee with the edge of a tennis racket (thereby causing himself to crash ignomiously to the ground). Remembering your own fuckups does help you appreciate what you could potentially do to yourself with a two and half foot razor at speed. In regard to European sword guards, they serve two basic purposes, namely (1) to protect the hand and wrist agaist thrusts with the point, and (2) some styles allowed the swordsman to capture his opponent's blade. I'm hardly an expert so perhaps someone else could elaborate on this. Regards, Steve Lamade San Miguel Eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 8:10:56 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #327 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.