From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #330 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 23 July 2001 Vol 08 : Num 330 In this issue: eskrima: Panyo, Head Ban, Lubid, Sinturon, Sarong, Tuwalya.etc. eskrima: Dan Inosanto sem end of July? eskrima: Viruses and Kali eskrima: And more virus info eskrima: virus via the list eskrima: Yantok y daga and Suro Mike Inay eskrima: BJJ seminar, Roy Harris, Rochester, NY eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #328 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1300 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:42:28 EDT Subject: eskrima: Panyo, Head Ban, Lubid, Sinturon, Sarong, Tuwalya.etc. Dear Member, Panyo and similar material, is a effective weapon part of Arnis, Eskrima and Estokada. This weapon is very effective Self 'defense weapon against any type of weapon. The Garimot System is been teaching and demonstrated this techniques in public, From Philippines, South America, and US. On 1998 Laguna Arnis Tiournaments, I demonstrated the Bandana similar to Panyo against a stick attacker. I also demonstrated this to the Florida Martial Art Hall of Fame.. On my Summer Retreat I taught them how to used the Lubid, also in Chicago and Wisconsin Seminar I also taught them Lubid. This is just few of the weapon that the FMA is alway has. Panyo is effective weapon to trap, dis-arm, takedown and locks, Lubid has the same effective plus you can used the Lubid for striking. Tatang Ilustrisimo I saw a video of him using Panyo, also Froffessor Vee using belt. Anyway I just want to share a little to this thread.. Great weapon, we should not take closer look at it. Thanks, Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Federation Interantional US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA << I am aware of the technique of tying a couple of pesos to the end of a 'Panyo'(hankerchief) as an improvised weapon, however, I have heard that advanced kali practicioners employ locking techniques (Trancada) with the Panyo and that sometimes they also use this piece of clothing as a defense against a knife wielding assailant. Are there schools/styles specializing in this? >> I know that this is used in FMA ... but I don't know of any specific styles of FMA that focus on it. I have a lot of similar material from Silat (primarily from the Cipecut in Mande Muda, but I've also seen some from Silat Serak). And Guro Dan I. has mentioned at seminars that he learned some of it from John Lacoste ... but I'm not sure what GM Lacoste's source for it was. Regards, Mike ------------------------------ From: "Buz Grover" Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:58:25 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Dan Inosanto sem end of July? Gary: Guro Dan will be at the Trident Academy of Martial Arts in Woodbridge, VA July 28 and 29. You can get directions and such at the Trident web site: http://www.tridentacademy.org or call them at 703 490 2425. Feel free to email me directly if I can be of any help. Regards, Buz Grover ------------------------------ From: Rick Lindquist Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 19:18:47 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Viruses and Kali Just a comment regarding typical applications "users" like myself when faced with what to do about these rampant viruses. Last week an EMS (Emergency Medical Services) list I am on spawned to me the same virus three times (the sulfnbk.exe one) in a row. The first two came in the same digest post labeled differently, and my recently updated Norton's picked it up as soon as it was downloaded. Norton's then asked me (remember I am the typical apps "user")if maybe I didn't please want to please let it screen my incoming e-mail for viruses first,please, which seemed pretty OK to me as I hadn't been doing that before. It then picked up the same virus the next day on a download. The difference? The virus never made it to my hard drive the second time. Fortunately it found it as soon as it was downloaded the first time since I run it in the background. The price? The cost of the antiviral software (it was painful, I've forgotten how much it cost),the cost of the update service ($30/yr), and slightly but noticeably slower downloading of my e-mail. Relevance to Kali? Just that I really like this list and being able to talk with so many knowledgable people in the world just at the edge of my keyboard, and don't want to lose that because of some twit with too much free time who likes to screw up others' machines. Ray does an outstanding job of administering this list reliably and safely, we can try to do the same with our own systems. This is definitely not a criticism of my friend Marc, I could have been the one, but points out how vulnerable we all can be. Now, off the soapbox I go. Regards to you all, Rick ------------------------------ From: "ZyXEL - Jan Pedro Tumusok" Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 02:36:18 GMT Subject: eskrima: And more virus info Hi, From what has been written here, it sounds like its the SirCam worm that is getting more active in the wild. Take a look at the following link for more information: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,1150589;root=security,1;mode=flat With kind regards Jan Pedro Tumusok ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 21:38:21 PDT Subject: eskrima: virus via the list Hopefully these aren't famous last words, but as long as this list runs on a Unix system and Majordomo list admin software you should never have to worry about receiving a virus via this list. Now you may get one via direct mail from someone else subscribed to this list, i.e. they send mail to you directly, but it won't arrive via an issue of the digest. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Jay de Leon" Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 00:45:57 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Yantok y daga and Suro Mike Inay Ken jo wrote to Jason Inay: "...would it be possible then that there is already an existing Latigo Y Daga..." I believe that the yantok y daga demo that Jason Inay talked about was during last year's gasshuku (training camp) in San Jose, in which the Inays (including Jenna) are a regular fixture. I was there, it was an awesome demonstration by father and son, and I chatted with Suro Mike after the class. Unfortunately, that was the last time I saw Suro Mike in action and the last time I spoke with him. I asked him what was the difference between what he just did and latigo y daga. He said that the retraction time for his yantok with a whip was much shorter and therefore you could deliver the yantok strikes much faster than a usual latigo. By the way, many FMA styles have latigo y daga systems, and the latigo can be anything from a calesa (the Philippines's horse drawn carriage) whip to a commercial whip similar to a Western bullwhip to a custom whip, and can be of varying length and material. For example, GM Mat Marinas uses a calesa whip with an attachment at the end called a "popper," like a mini-firecracker that explodes when you crack the whip. Another prominent system currently teaching latigo y daga techniques as part of their curriculum and with their own custom whips is the Sayoc system. I guess the other advantage to Suro Mike's weapon is that the yantok with a whip is still a baston (cane or stick) and can obviously be used as such, much like in regular espada y daga. I defer to my good friend Suro Jason to answer whether the Inayan system has a latigo y daga system in addition to the yantok y daga. Jay de Leon ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Black" Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 12:59:29 Subject: eskrima: BJJ seminar, Roy Harris, Rochester, NY In case any are interested, Saunders BJJ is hosting Roy Harris on August 18-19, 2001, from 10am-4pm, in Rochester, NY. Mr. Harris is a second degree black belt under Joe Moreira, and a longtime JKD practitioner. The seminar will primarily cover the triangle choke and ankle locks, but also provides an open Q&A session, which can cover any part of Mr. Harris vast martial arts expertise. A limited number of private lessons are also available (I'm going to do some stick! :). Check out www.saundersbjj.com for more info. The cost is $99 for both days until 7/28, then its $125. - - Kevin Kevin Black shillelagh2@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Eli Silva Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 07:56:14 -0500 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #328 Kenjo, Gat Buno Abon from Florida, teaches their family style called "Garimot Style" of arnis from (Paete, Laguna)..It include a comprehensive combative Locks and defense system of LUBID (manila hemp, or rope) and/or PANYO (handjkerchief)....With his "Largo Mano" style and Moro Moro and Harimaw Buno (grappling and wrestling), he post a formidable and authentic method of FMA. He is a frequent participant within this forum and hopefully he is listening to your requests or inquiries. Friend, Eulalio ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 7:36:27 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #330 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.