From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #352 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 7 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 352 In this issue: eskrima: Re: weapons on the plane eskrima: Re: Jamie Hutchins request eskrima: Cold Steel eskrima: Serrada Escrima demo this Sunday eskrima: Kuntao, Africa & Misc. eskrima: Training equipment on planes eskrima: Weapons and airplanes eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. 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To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "johnaleen" Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 16:56:12 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: weapons on the plane Like Ray said, its much easer to just check them into your baggage, i carry my blades with me that i have gotten from the Edge company and bob, all over the world from aussi land to Europe and back, take my sticks with and even a few sharp edged weapons, as long as you pack them and check them in your bags you should have no problems... though i tend to at times carry my stick bag on the plane as carry on luggage many of my Male counterparts have not gotten away with it. because i am a Girl, i am told i get away with much more because of it...... many of my male counterparts have not had the same easy time of it... Ms. J....... " Well Behaved Women Seldom Make History" ***************** Hello,Has anyone required special precautions for aluminum training knives in airplane carry-on luggage? One of my blades is a *sweet* Edges2 mirror-polished aluminum knife. Is it easy to get this through security or should I leave the beauty at home ?..Thank you. *************** ------------------------------ From: "Bill Lowery" Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 23:17:45 +0100 Subject: eskrima: Re: Jamie Hutchins request Hi Jamie, If you go to the following URL: http://www.pfs-stx.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard//topic.cgi?forum=1&topic=94 you'll find reviews of the recent 5 tapes series. Guro Inosanto has a six tape series from some time ago, but I haven't seen them all in order to review them. Bill Lowery ------------------------------ From: "Michael Koblic" Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 17:21:05 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Cold Steel Does anyone have experience with the new line of swords and machettes from Cold Steel? Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC ------------------------------ From: "Joe Balabis" Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 03:34:16 Subject: eskrima: Serrada Escrima demo this Sunday Just a reminder that there will be a Serrada Escrima demo this Sunday at 5pm at the Yerba Buena Gardens in San Francisco. The demo will be part of the Pistahan celebration that will take place this weekend from August 11-12. This is a free event that is open to all. The Angel's Disciples schools from Stockton and the Bay Area will be hosting a booth on both days, and will perform a demonstration on Sunday. We are looking forward to this weekend, and we hope many of you can come and give us your support. Serrada Escrima Club Angel's Disciples-Bay Area _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "BILL MCGRATH" Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 01:01:24 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Kuntao, Africa & Misc. When I was 17 my teacher (Leo Gaje) had us spend the summer cross training with a Filipino Kuntao instructor by the name of Edwin Renonos. He said his teacher had learned the art in Mindanao. His training consisted of some simple footwork based on a knees in "pigeon toed" stance, basic blocks and then immediately choosing a body part to specialize in. One guy chose kicks (just front and back kick in this style). Another chose forearm hack and slap. Another fist (jab, cross and a long lead hook). Another eye jab. Edwin chose elbow. For the next two years each man would spend his time in class either bagging or engaging in full contact, no armor sparring. The only rule was that you could only use your specialty. After two years each man cross trained in the other weapons. After a total of five years the school broke up because of the high injury rate. Edwin was one of the best empty hand men I have seen. Timing that was spooky and very aggressive and hard hitting. He used the generic term Kuntao (his spelling) and said that it was an outgrowth of an art some Chinese merchants brought to the Philippines around 800 A.D. Does this description and explanation ring a bell with any one in the group? The period of 800 A.D. was also the time given by my Silat instructor (Suriadi Jafri) as the origin of one of the styles he taught, the Lankah Empat (four stepping) style of Penchak Silat. He said that Chinese immigrants came to Indonesia around 800 A.D. and that this style originated with an art they taught. Showing it to some Kung Fu instructors, they found a striking resemblance to Bag Gua (Baq Qua. sp?). Africans in Asia: Perhaps the "negritos" were in the Philippines long before the coming of Muslim missionaries from Africa. I recently read that, because of DNA studies, scientists are now classifying humans into four races. Asian, Caucasian, Negroid and Aboriginal. It seems the Aboriginal peoples of Australia have sufficiently different DNA from Negroid (sub-Sahara African) peoples to be categorized as there own race. This signified to the scientists that a group of humans which later became the Aborigines of Australia migrated from Africa at the same early time period as the groups which would later become the Asians and Caucasians. This period was so early in our history and the earth's population of humans so small, that there were no discernable differences between groups of humans, i.e. no "races". The minor differences we think of as distinguishing characteristics of race came much later as emigrants to new climates adapted to their environments. (I wish we could find a term other than "race" to describe the very minor differences between humans. We don't speak of the "Great Dane race" or the "Chihuahua race" and yet the differences between different breeds of dogs are certainly much greater than the differences between different "races" of humans.) Cool web sites: I was recently sent the URL for the Horse Archery web site. http://www.horsearchery.org/ ) and a Roman army web site http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/6622/) Perhaps not FMA related but still interesting. For those of you who didn't see it when I first posted it on ED, I now have an online version of my human aggression article at: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/pti_news-W2001.htm Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath Visit the PTI web site at: http://www.pekiti-tirsia.com/index.html ------------------------------ From: rklampfer@mindspring.com Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 08:21:53 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Training equipment on planes As a frequent air travler, I'd advise taking training knives in checked baggage. The quality, knowledge, professionalism, and general attitude of airport security varies widely, depending on the particular airport and company providing security services there. If you encounter a particularly overzealous security officer (first week on the job, sees a terrorist behind every bush, etc.), you could find yourself arrested and spend a lot of time and money sorting things out. As Ray has already said - avoid the potential hassle and check your training knives. From: gints@att.net Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2001 19:27:18 +0000 Subject: eskrima: Training equipment on planes ? Hello, Has anyone required special precautions for aluminum training knives in airplane carry-on luggage? One of my blades is a *sweet* Edges2 mirror-polished aluminum knife. Is it easy to get this through security or should I leave the beauty at home ? ------------------------------ From: Kendal Coats Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Weapons and airplanes There is a funny line when it comes to airport security. while flying I carry a spyderco Endura in my pocket, there isnt enough steel there to set of the detector on its own, so I pass right through with it. That being said, in my carry on, I have carried a palm stick, and wood training knives. I was told that I would have to leave them there and could claim them on my return, but could not carry them on the plane. So I returned them to my car, they didn't make the trip, but my spyderco did. My advice is the dame as Ray's,,avoid the hassel and keep them in the checked luggage. Peace __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! 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