From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #358 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 11 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 358 In this issue: eskrima: Kickin' tires eskrima: Re: FMA in U.K. eskrima: Re:Mildenhall-Lakenheath England eskrima: Canucks go to (DB) camp eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #357 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000), Founder of the Inayan System of Eskrima. Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rick Lindquist Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:28:10 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Kickin' tires Sorry for the confusion. I'm referring to the low line kick against the shin or instep using the heel or inner "blade" or instep of the foot against the target. This is usually with the rear foot against a lead shin. It's usually a swinging type kick rather than a stomp. Anyway, training against the tire (with no rim) forces you to find the right mechanic. For example, I have typically used too much the inside of the foot, putting pressure against the ankle joint when kicking hard. I've been able to fix that and the forces transfer up through the joint. I kick much harder with less perceived effort. Hope this helps. Regards, Rick >From: "Michael Koblic" >Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:13:04 -0700 >Subject: eskrima: Kickin' tires > >>"Lay this little >>thing on a flat surface and "shin kick" it. You will find out very soon >>the correct angle and foot placement that works, better that any sparring >>or drill practice that I've seen so far. " > >I am not clear on this: Does the tire represent the shin? Or do you kick it >with your shin a la Muy Thai? In that case how do you manage to get your >shin on the tire lying flat? If the former what "tool" do you use to kick >the tire (toes?instep?heel?) > >Mike Koblic, >Campbell River, BC ------------------------------ From: "Dave Huang" Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 18:51:49 Subject: eskrima: Re: FMA in U.K. Not sure of geography of U.K. but Guro Andy Gibney is a very good instructor who is associated with Sifu Richard Bustillo, GM Cacoy and GM Danny Guba. I was fortunate enough to have met and trained with him briefly when he visited the States. I think he has a website. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "johnaleen" Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 15:58:18 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re:Mildenhall-Lakenheath England Dear Bill -Maharlika Kuntao-Guam Mildenhall... tell your son to go to the MWR office in Mildenhall there use to be a martial arts club there, the teacher had been there for a number of years and i believe hr had retired there from the Navy in his early 40s. i wish i had my notes and stuffs from then, i believe he was a world champion at some kind of art when he was younger... i dont remember his name though i am sorry, I was tossed out of the UK 3 and a half years ago, anyway the teacher use to keep a full list of instructors and arts there locally... he should check with MWR in lakenheath... if he wants a private training partner in the military tell him to run an add in there local military times, and i believe that in Cambridge at the University they still have an MA-FMA club i use to have all this information but the slimy piece of dog food ex husband has all my stuffs still....... Ms. J. grumbles a little.... Gets her Dos-Mano's Stick and goes outside and dose stress-management on the beach... and then whoops up on her rope using a lot of Creative Visualization Techniques........:( ------------------------------ From: Loki Jorgenson Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Canucks go to (DB) camp Another long overdue review of the Dog Brothers camp in L.A. The Phoenix Rises I for one was disappointed when I heard that the Gatherings of the Pack were no more (at least the regular public ones I had been attending for the last several years). I felt good to have been at the last one and marked its occasion. And I was glad to be at the newest incarnation of DB spirit too. The opportunity to *train* with other DBs was a real development for me, given that I usually only got a few hours every six months or so with most DBs. Sure, I'd been coming down to train with Crafty when I could. But it was an inspiration to pull everyone together to share amongst ourselves, learn from the top fighters, various grandmasters and world champions, as well as fight. Canucks Go to Camp And it was a good showing from the northern tribes as five Canadians made it; one from Vancouver (yours truly), one from Toronto (Tyler), two from Montreal (Sled Dog and Owen), and one fresh from the last few years in Oaxaca, Mexico (Jacy). I hadn't seen most of them for over a year so that was good all on its own. The Teachers and the Training I was duly impressed by the line up of teachers, both on paper and in actuality. Brilliant knife technique from the Sayocs (not for the squeamish), intriguing stick with staff technique from GM Estalilla, clever standing grapple from World Cup champion Rico Chiparelli, fascinating BJJ-informed yoga blend from Roger Machado, and a great mix of DB material from Crafty, Salty and Top Dogs. Plus, of course, bonus training on the side from unadvertised teachers like Sled Dog. My personal favourite was the Krabi Krabong - can't say what it is exactly but it gets my vote every time. It's raw. And it hits hard. And it kicks. Literally. Which during a stick fight is great technique if you have the right technology. I'm working on it. Healing after the Fight And the emphasis on healing and recovery was relatively unqiue. Yoga, massage, and pressure point was integrated into the use of the weapons and the training in a way I had seldom seen. And it was clearly a side of being martial that hasn't received enough attention IMHO. I missed the staff massage and meditation conducted by the famous (and infamous) Dr. Gyi after the fighting on Sunday (early flight home). However several others noted that it was a real benefit to them and particularly interesting. No one demonstrating technique was a light weight. And all the material, from staff to stick to knife to empty hand made this a rich three days. The Gathering And then there was the fighting. Last but not least of course. A whole new venue - a tighter space, with walls and obstacles and dangerous surfaces to contend with. On mats with more foot grip that usual. I only fought twice - once knife and once single stick. And that was fine for me this time. But both were really good fights. Knife, Sayoc Style For knife, I picked out Raw Dog from New York (Nick Sacoulis) who I've always had good fights with. He's been studying the Sayoc system hard and of course I've been part of the Pekiti-Tirsia system for many years. So this looked like a good match. I checked with him on knife length, and whether he wanted to use aluminum blades (for that more exciting fight action). He did and showed me a six inch blade preferred by the Sayocs. I borrowed a similar one from my guro, Philip (Sled Dog), and went out to meet my opponent. When we crossed blades, he was now holding a 2.5" folder replica and I was momentarily confused. As we stepped back, I asked him what happened to the six inch blade and he waved me off and dropped into stance. Then I noticed the handle of the six inch blade at his waist. I had about two seconds to make the connection before Nick avidly demonstrated where his training was grounded - he whipped the short blade at my face and drew the large the one to attack!! Now if I had been paying any attention the previous day to the Sayoc seminar, I should have seen this coming. They had been advocating multiple blades and throwing for distraction. And the blade switch should have sent off alarms when I squared up with Nick. Well, I twitched my head when he threw. And it seemed he just missed me. So whether it was luck or aim, I managed to avoid paying the price for being caught flat footed. But kudos to Nick for a brilliant display of innovative knife fighting. Next time, I'll have my brain in gear as well as my feet. The rest of the fight was as good as the beginning promised. It was fast and technical and we both got good shots in, respecting the blade as we fought. Heavy on the Stick My stick fight was with Chris Clifton (True Dog). And, given that some part of me was thinking of just keeping a low profile (irregular training schedule in recent months), I picked one of the toughest fighters at the event. Apparently there was another part of me that was looking for a rumble. Sitting around for our fight, Chris casually told me about all the injuries that he had inadvertantly caused lately. Recognizing a psych job when I hear it (conscious or unconscious), I smiled and nodded and played with the fear that he generated in me. Resisting the temptation to reciprocate, I focussed on the reality before me. And prepared to fight hard. We rocked!! He got the first clear shot to the head (considered by most to be a fight's true ending). I drew some blood through the mask. And both threw everything we had at each other. I haven't seen the video yet but it felt awesome. I was told it looked really technical which is a great thing to hear, especially when the energy levels were so high. Fortunately, and testament to the essence of fire-meeting-fire in the spirit of brotherhood, we both walked away unhurt. Thanks True Dog!! He went on to give and take tremendous blows in several fights more. He was really put it all out in a great showing. Fresh Blood I was greatly gratified to have one of my students, Jacy Wright, there to fight. He took on the formidable Lonely Dog who had seemed like he wasn't going to fight and then went on to tear a strip 10 foot wide through several fights. Benjamin amazes me - somewhat isolated in Switzerland, he has advanced noticeably at every Gathering. He's a courageous fighter and one of the few to fight staff regularly. I haven't fought him yet although we have trained often. One day... And Jacy, similarly isolated for the last couple of years, training more Capoeira than his usual FMA or BJJ, made the difficult journey up from Mexico to play. Always one of my preferred opponents, especially on the ground, I looked forward to this meeting of rattan. Well, the two of them clashed hard with unreserved ferocity. To his credit, Jacy chose to face the staff with double sticks. Many hard blows being traded in the ground fight. The intensity was very high. NHB with weapons!! Enough Already I could go on - there were plenty of notable fights and lots of good technique and spirit demonstrated. But I'll cut this off before I lose the whole afternoon to the experience. Crafy - when's the next one? - -- \ Pekiti-Tirsia kali Loki Jorgenson /\ Maelstrom Martial Arts \/ / O / silat Jati Wisesa loki@pekiti-tirsia.org (604) 837-0240 \ Dog Brothers MA www.pekiti-tirsia.org/ManoBaston/ \ Inosanto Academy ------------------------------ From: Allan Duncan Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 16:05:22 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #357 In response to Bill from Guam. I trained with the Cambridge Martial Arts Academy in Cambridge, located at Coleridge Community College, for 1 week while I was there on business. Your son can contact Julie or Ollie Batts at 01223 565020. They are affiliated with the Minnesota Kali Group. Good Luck. Allan Duncan Doce Pares Eskirma Oakland Eskrima Club > From: "Anderson" > Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 12:54:46 +1000 > Subject: eskrima: FMA instructors in the U.K. > > Greetings from Guam, > > I have a request for information concerning the FMA instructors in the > Cambridge or local area of Britain. My son is there currently and is > looking for a school to train in.. He has been there for a couple of weeks > and is going bonkers looking for off duty activites. > He asked me to see if there are any instructors in the Cambridge (RAF > Mildenhall area) or RAF Lakenheath area where he can start training > again... I know that Pat O'Malley and a couple of other instructors are in > the UK, but their specific locations escape me at the time > > any help would be appreciated > > Bill > Maharlika Kuntao > Guam ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:15:26 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #358 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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