From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #387 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 31 Aug 2001 Vol 08 : Num 387 In this issue: eskrima: Corral System of Arnis ? eskrima: GM Presas eskrima: Yaw-Yan - Filipino footfighting eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #381 eskrima: Balintawak Seminar with Bobby Taboada eskrima: Any comments on this info forwarded to me ? eskrima: Re: G/M Presas eskrima: Unusual training methods ? eskrima: Professor Presas eskrima: A Sad Howl: eskrima: Condolences from the Sayoc Kali Family eskrima: Condolences eskrima: Re: Remy Presas eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ken McDonough Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 20:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Corral System of Arnis ? Regarding my earlier post on information on Sam Corral, Manila-Angeles City, PI, I ran across this blurb in a search: This guy who teaches the system (name omitted) sounds like a real street fighter. He also teaches automatic weapons training, ballistics, and knife street techniques. Thinking of meeting him in Manilla and Angeles. He is on another list that I am on. But, it is comprised of guys who hang in Angeles City, re: beer drinkers and low life types. Not the clean cut types often pontificating. Anyway, again= any information on this system advise. Thanks, McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "D Sabo" Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:30:24 -0400 Subject: eskrima: GM Presas

Hello All,

I returned home from a family vacation tonight to read the sad news about Professor Presas' passing. While I have only been studying Modern Arnis for the last year or so, under Guro McConnell, I have been unable to avoid noticing the impact that GM Presas has had on the lives of those who have met him, trained with him, and shared their lives with him. My deepest condolences go out to the Presas family. While I have never had the honor of meeting the Professor myself, I remember every day that he gave me the art that I love. For what he has done for the FMA it would seem we are all grateful, and and I am sure he will be remembered fondly.

Requiescat In Pace, Remy

- Dave Sabo

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------------------------------ From: "Don Edwards" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:00:25 +0000 Subject: eskrima: Yaw-Yan - Filipino footfighting Has anyone any training in this style.. I've read its the Filipino version of Muay Thai..I was wondering what your thoughts/comments were and how it differs from muay thai(if at all).. is there anyone in the US that is currently teaching this? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Bladewerkrr@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:07:09 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #381 In a message dated 8/28/01 19:56:04 Eastern Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << However, you miss the point that you cannot compare Leo Gaje, who is well-known around the world and who has an international organization supporting him, with any old GM XYZ that no one has ever heard about. >> >> To begin with I have trained with Bill McGrath and have only the highest respect for Leo Gaje and all in the Pekita Tirsia Organizations. Having said that, may I say that you are comparing apples and oranges. As surfing the web will attest, anyone can set up a large organization, worldwide. There are many certificate chasers that will join anything if it gets them another scrap of impressive looking paper. As to who has been heard of and who hasn't, that is a matter of PR not MA. Within any interest group you can find people that have promoted themselves to where they are household names, in that special interests category. But to say that the ones that haven't achieved the celebrity status are in some way inferior in ability is rather simplistic. Take a trip to New York, or Hollywood or Nashville. For every extremely talented, well known, rich and famous actor/actress, singer and musician, there are scores, if not hundreds that are as good that weren't at the right place at the right time. Leo Gaje had the good fortune to be introduced to the martial arts world through Dan Inasanto, as have several others. Bruce Lee got his break through Ed Parker. Would either of them achieved the success had they not gotten that lucky break? Who knows. Sometimes the difference between fame and fortune, and waiting tables while holding onto a big dream is something as simple as wearing the right sweater and sitting at the right soda fountain at the right time. As to whether GM Gajes seminars are worth the money, that is a moot point. If I had it right now I would be there. Just My $0.02 Worth, Bear ------------------------------ From: Ray Asuncion Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 07:23:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Balintawak Seminar with Bobby Taboada Upcoming Seminar: GM Bobby Taboada is having a Balintawak seminar in Cincinnati, Ohio on Saturday, September 15. For more information, please view this website: http://oz.uc.edu/~asuncirr/Arnis/Seminar2001.html Please reply to my email address if you are interested. thanks, Ray __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 08:51:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Any comments on this info forwarded to me ? The below comments were forwarded to me. I have edited the names and do not endorse or confirm the contents therein. Just seek comments if your so inclined. Thanks. Quoting: McD... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: SNAPIAL@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:56:28 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: G/M Presas In behalf of the Master Alfredo Bandalan Sr. and the Bandalan Doce Pares Association, we send our most sincere condolences to the family and students of Grandmaster Presas. He represented Filipino Martial Arts with not only his great skills, but with exceptional class and dignity. He will be sorely missed, but his legacy will surely continue with the outstanding students he had developed throughout the years. Our prayers go out towards Grand Master Presas and his family. May he give comport during your time of sorrow. God bless you, Alfredo Bandalan Sr. Founder, Bandalan Doce Pares Association. Master Instructor / Bandalan Martial Arts Academy Sonny and Joe Napial Chief Instructors / BDP ------------------------------ From: Ken McDonough Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:50:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Unusual training methods ? I received this from an associate of mine out of Australia. He worked as a body guard in the PI and other Asian countries. Unsure if I want to learn this stuff. Kind of in the twilight zone... Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:28:45 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Professor Presas As the news sinks in I just wanted to share a thought. I will miss my teacher, and my friend, terribly, but I cherish two things he shared with me. His art, of course, but also the many friends around the country I wouldn't have met, and come to cherish, through Modern Arnis. Thanks Professor. ------------------------------ From: "Marc Denny" Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:32:07 -0700 Subject: eskrima: A Sad Howl: On behalf of the Dog Brothers, a sad howl in honor of GM Presas. We traveled in different circles and never met the man, but the number of fine people he inspired speaks for itself. Woof, Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny Guiding Force of the Dog Brothers ------------------------------ From: "Steven Lefebvre" Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 17:04:23 Subject: eskrima: Condolences from the Sayoc Kali Family To the Family and Friends of Grand Master Presas, Tuhon Christopher Sayoc, the Sayoc family, and the Guros and students of Sayoc Kali, wish our deepest condolences to you for your loss. It is always a sad event when such a wonderful person leaves us, he will be deeply missed. Gumagalang Guro Steven Lefebvre (Kayan Isa Guro, Sayoc Kali) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ronald.Reekers@HSC.com Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:18:14 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Condolences From the Estalilla Kabaroan family we would like to extend our prayers and condolences to family, friends and students of GM Remy Presas. I had a long discussion with GM Ramiro Estalilla regard GM Remy Presas' passing and he would like to express his sadness and extend his prayers to the Presas. He spoke of his friendship and heartfelt feelings for GM Presas. GM Estalilla fondly remembers having long talks with GM Presas regarding his Eskrima manuscripts and regarding GM Estalilla's theological training. The Ministry was an important element between the two friends. May the Lord comfort the family and friends of GM Remy Presas at this time of grief. Your Manong has given much to all of you. Though life is short we can all appreciate each other's relationships in body and in spirit. The Kabaroan Family ------------------------------ From: "hudginsg" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:27:54 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Remy Presas I only got to train with Remy once. I had another opportunity but missed it due to other committments thinking I would get another chance. I will treasure the photo taken with Remy Presas for a long time. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Presas family. G Hudgins ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:52:13 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #387 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. 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