From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #389 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 2 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 389 In this issue: eskrima: GM Presas Update eskrima: Books for armchair and other warriors eskrima: Professor: A loss to The Martial Arts. eskrima: Labor Day ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "tim hartman" Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 16:56:59 Subject: eskrima: GM Presas Update Greetings, I would like to inform everyone that there will be a viewing for GM Presas in the Philippines after his body is sent back. As it stands now there will be no open viewing in North America. This may change in the future. Professor Presas is survived by seven children: Mary Jane, Mary Ann, Remy Jr, Maria and Demetri, from his first wife, RoseMary; and Remia and Joseph from his current wife, Yvette Wong. Please send Cards and Condolences to his family. Accepting for the Presas family is: Mary Jane Seletaria 14 Manzanilla Ct, San Pablo, CA 94806 Accepting for the Wong family is: Yvette Wong 2553 Blackwood Street Victoria, BC, Canada V8T 3V9 Check our website (www.wmarnis.com) for current updates on the status of any updates. Datu Tim Hartman Remy Presas' Modern Arnis www.wmarnis.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Michael Koblic" Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 18:24:39 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Books for armchair and other warriors 1) "Ghost force: the secret history of the SAS" by Ken Connor, -fascinating review of the Regiment's development and putative decline put in a political context. The author is not afraid to name names and voice opinions which are sometimes controversial. In relation to recent thread about martial arts and dogs, the description of the experimental use of dogs in the SAS work is hillarious (Chapter 10, pp. 303-306). 2) "The Savage science of street fighting" by Ned Beaumont -a sequel to the "Championship streetfighting". Many interesting insights and observations. The historical descriptions of training methods are priceless. On the whole I thought this a worthwhile, down-to-earth couple of books. 3) "The Archaelogy of weapons" by Ewart Oakeshott -lot of it is a rather boring discourse on the umpteen different shapes of a Viking pommel, but my attention was caught by a story he relates: "In 1350 there was truce in France. No one was at war, and the small garrison of the castle of Josselin in Brittany was bored. The seneschal....sent an envoy to the neighbouring castle....to send him forth one champion or two or three to joust with swords against an equal number for the love of their ladies. (The reply) was No....our ladies will not that we adventure ourselves for the passing chance of a single joust; but if you will, chose twenty or thirty of your companions, and let them fight with us in a fair field. So 30 champions on each side were chosen. They heard Mass, armed themselves and went out to the place of arms...25 of each side on foot, 5 on horseback. Then they fought, and after some time they were exhausted and each captain drew their men to rest....Then they went to it again and many were killed on one side and on the other, and at last the English had the worst of it, and all who were not slain were made prisoners, and courteously cared for until they were healed of their wounds, when they were ransomed." I though this put the concept of Dog Brothers into a whole different league. Who knows, are we going to see a similar concept at the next Gathering? 4) "Iai: the Art of drawing a sword", by Darrell Craig, - a complete instruction how to perform the function of a kaishaku correctly. No home should be without it... Mike Koblic, Campbell River, BC ------------------------------ From: "L. E." Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 08:52:21 Subject: eskrima: Professor: A loss to The Martial Arts. The Professor has touched the lives of many FMA'ists and is one of the first who are responsible for bringing the Filipino Martial Arts to the forefront & recoginition as it exists today. My first encounter with Modern Arnis was with "Fighting Stars" magazine. The magazine had the actor Dean Stockwell on the front cover who was a student under GM Presas. The article covered the movie "Pacific Connection" in which the Professor was the martial art choreographer. The first "formal classroom training" I experienced was in 1978 when I had pleasure to train directly under the Professor. I continued training under his senior students in Modern Arnis & have been fortunate to expand my friendship with the rest of my Modern Arnis brethren. In the 1980's, I would travel to Hollywood to train once again with the Professor. Throughout the years, while he was still living in San Francisco, I would converse with him by phone & he would always provide encouragement for me to continue spreading his art & provide me inspiration to train & continue, as the late Guro Ted Lucaylucay referred to as "my journey". I recall GM Presas wanting so passionatly for others to experience his beautiful art. One moment comes to mind during the first day I trained under GM Presas. There was a woman in class who could not execute the complexity of the Double Sinawali (a.k.a. 6 Std). Frustrated, the woman then burst out of the class with the Professor running out of the door after her. Outside the window, as she was in tears, I could see him pleading with her to continue the class. The Professor spent, in my mind to be 15 minutes trying to give her encouragement to continue & come back to class. She eventually walked away from him. The look of dejection on the Professor's face was clearly evident when he returned. It was difficult for him to conceal his frustration for not being able to reach and connect with her. Years later, I recall a time in Hollywood when I would once again reunite with the Professor. By this time his popularity was increasing, especially with the release of his new book. Being one of the junior students, he always made it a point to make his long time students, such as myself, get the most benefit from his training. During this particular session, there were at least 50 or so students in class, with many I have previously met from other academies in the area. A number far too many for him to give personal atttention to. The Professor found a way to give me the personal instruction that I travelled 3-1/2 hours to get. He made it a point to introduce me as his relative (which unfortunately I was not) to his senior students ensuring that I get the personal attention that he wish he could have personaly given to me. Needless to say, from then on I was invited to many "extra curricular activities" that the school gave. Of the funnier times, I recall him chanting out a melody for us to perform an anyo to. It was extemely hard to perform well when the other students are looking at you trying to make you laugh! The Professor was always innovating his Modern Arnis & every meeting was new & refreshing, in this particular case, we were introduced to his singing talents. I recall stories that GM Ramiro Estalilla told me about Prof. Presas visiting him at his home in Fresno & how they openly exchanged ideas & became closer friends. During the past weeks, GM Estalilla has kept in contact with GM Presas' close students to keep updated on how the health condition of his friend has been. The Professor's dedication & committment to touch so many & his understanding of both the human spirit & human nature have truly guided me & provided inspiration in my FMA. We know death is certain, yet it remains hard to accept. I know that I am not the only who says that their lives have been enriched by knowing the Professor. With the passing of another great teacher, my thoughts go to those who have never had the opportunity to train under the Manongs and the fathers or our beloved martial arts. I'm awed of how little I pale in comparison to these truly gifted and wonderful instructors in their 60's, 70's & 80's. I'm humbled by their skills, but grateul for what they bring to our lives by enriching them with their indomitable spirit. On behalf of the Kabaroan Association I would like to express our heartfelt condolescences & deepest sympathy to the family & students of GM Remy A. Presas. With deep respect & much sorrow, our love to you Professor. Your grateful student, Lino Espejo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2001 14:21:33 PDT Subject: eskrima: Labor Day For those in the US, have a restful Labor Day. Remembering Prof. Remy Presas... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #389 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.