From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #397 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 9 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 397 In this issue: eskrima: FMA teachers eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #395 eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #396 eskrima: top 10 eskrima: Reply regarding Prof. Lantayao eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://www.MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Marc Denny" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 11:12:57 -0700 Subject: eskrima: FMA teachers A Howl of Greeting to All: The recent thread about a list of 10 FMA teachers of note had me remembering Punong Guro Edgar Sulite. As evidenced by his book "Masters of Kali, Arnis, and Eskrima" he was extraordinarily well versed with the generation that recently has passed or will pass soon. A lot more passed with him than we realize. I miss him. Crafty Dog ------------------------------ From: Bladewerkrr@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:20:45 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #395 In a message dated 9/7/01 3:42:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Mark Harrell writes: << We all know how the politics thing goes... Politics and small minds have alienated many people who otherwise would have had so much to offer an organization. >> It is truly a pity that so many people put self interests ahead of Unity. I have watched many organizations splinter and crumble because of this. I am very happy to see that the Inayan system of escrima seems to be doing a remarkable job of keeping it together after the untimely passing of it's founder. I am sure that there are other organizations that have done this also, but due to the close relationship of the Inayan organization and this list, I am more aware of it. It is a tribute to the founders memory. Having said that, I wish to bring up a topic for discussion, if anyone is interested. Why is this so? Why do some organizations become a memorial to the Founder, while others become an every man for himself spectacle of such horrific quality? It seems that the petty infighting has almost become the norm among organizations today. I know it is not because some instructors of high rank wish to simply express themselves in a somewhat different manner. There are many that have done that yet keep close ties and friendship with their previous instructors? Understand that this is not a trick question. I am not being smug waiting for others to jump in so that I can provide the true answer. No, I am just seeking answers if there are any. Respects to all; Bear ------------------------------ From: Bladewerkrr@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:36:53 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #396 In a message dated 9/8/01 8:48:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << All the Guro/GM/Maestro/Maestra etc. knows each other somehow, someway. Students from each school are taught to respect each other. >> How wonderful! I remember when hardly anyone knew of FMA, at least not in the South. I was at a park one day and saw someone twirling a set of sticks. I parked my bike and went to introduce myself. Both of us were so glad to meet a person that shared our interest in the FMA! It did not matter what style we had studied or who our teacher (s) were. Another martial artist that did not look down on you because you trained in jeans and a T-shirt! A companion that did not think you were unathletic or ill trained because your kicks were all low and who did not think a persons worth was determined by the color belt around his waist. How refreshing. Respects, Bear ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 14:23:35 PDT Subject: eskrima: top 10 Ok, my turn for top 10. In no particular order... Cacoy Canete Al Concepcion Emanuel Hart Ben Luna Lima Narrie Babao Bobby Taboada Sonny Umpad Antonio Diego Jose Mena Eduardo Pedoy Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Mark Harrell" Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 23:13:09 +0000 Subject: eskrima: Reply regarding Prof. Lantayao Greetings Reuben Argel, I am very glad to hear that Prof. Lantayao is still active. In my post, my intent was to reference to the political landscape within the Kali Association of America which has retired Professors: Lantayao, Allen Magdangal, Mario Magdangal, and Ron Hellman without even asking them if they were retired. Thank you for the update and no offense was taken by your update. Take care, Pangulo Na Guro Harrell ______________________________________________________________________ From: "Reuben Argel" Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 06:05:32 Subject: eskrima: Prof. Lantayao and Hawaii FMA schoolAloha Folks, Just want to respond to the following statement. >Professor Greg Lontanyao is retired and in failing health. I do not claim to represent Prof. Lontayao or his association. It is no secret that he does have health problems but when he was teaching the class last Saturday (which I participated!), he didn't seem retired to me!! The Prof. taught the whole class from 1000 - 1400, with 5 min. breaks here and there. He kept the pace going and seemed to be tireless as the class went on. But he taught it without any assistance from any of his surbordinates. The following day (Sunday), he again taught class for his instructors! Teaching on Labor Day weekend does not sound retired to me! In fact, he is opening another club/school on the Leeward side of Oahu. He stated that he will be teaching this school himself. Mr. Harrell, please do not be offended by my correction and I respect your opinion on your post but I'm just trying to convey that Prof. Lantayao is still teaching and doing quite well here in Oahu, Hawaii. Though I belong to Guro Pat Amantiad's Hawaii Filipino Martial School, I still respect the teachings of Prof. Lantayao and I make every efforts tolearn from any one of these instructors if the opportunity presents itself.I would also like to pass on to everyone that besides being a very goodteacher, Prof. Lantayao is also very personable individual. He is a classact. I would also like to say the same thing about Guro Pat Amantiad. Outside of the Hawaii Filipino Martial Arts community, no one probably knowsof him and our school. I think highly of him as a FMA Instructor and as ahuman being! He too is a definite class act. Guro Pat and our school (and many other schools in Hawaii) is not listed inany of FAQ's/list of schools on the web or even the yellow pages. Most ofthem can't afford to advertise or just want to spread the knowledge to thosewho seek. (Every school has their reasons.) The FMA community in Hawaii is pretty close. All the Guro/GM/Maestro/Maestra etc. knows each other somehow, someway. Students from each school are taught to respect each other. Specially when they meeteach other on the Annual Solo Baston Tournament. For a lack of a betterword, it is Hawaii's version of the "Gathering" (but not as brutal!). Thetournament resembles GM Giron's Bahala Na type sparring rules. A while back,schools here use to send fighters to the Stockton tournament. Every club inthe island takes turn in sponsoring the event each year. In summary, like the Villabrille/Largusa school or the Lantayao Org. or theTabosa school or Delmar School: our school (Hawaii FMA school), our art andour culture/heritage will stand the test of time because of the dedicationand leadership of these individuals that we call "TEACHER". Two post in two days, wow! That's the most I've ever written in 5 or so years here in the Eskrima Digest! I shall go back and hide under the Rockthat I call Hawaii and be a reader again! My kindest words and appreciationto Mr. Terry and all of his hard work and effort that he puts to promote theFMA through the Eskrima Digest.Salamat po/ Mahalo,Reuben _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 16:57:35 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #397 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.