From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #425 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Mon, 24 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 425 In this issue: eskrima: Islam, islamists and muslims eskrima: Re:Master.... eskrima: Re: Fundraising Seminar- Traditional Doce Pares Espada ya Daga in the Sand eskrima: Screening Process eskrima: Re: JFJKD w/all the orginal guys eskrima: Islam eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ZyXEL - Jan Pedro Tumusok" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 15:34:51 GMT Subject: eskrima: Islam, islamists and muslims Sorry about not letting this topic go, > THIRD: > > ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALLIED IN THIS CAUSE ARE ISLAMIST (This term is NOT > interchangeable with Muslim. All Islamists are Muslims, but only a minority > of Muslims are Islamists) AND ALL ARE ARAB. Are you 100% sure about this? I always belived that the religion is Islam and all its followers are Muslims and then there are directions like sunnie, shia etc. Just like Christianity and christians, with the protestants and chatolics etc. Never ever seen the word islamist used before. My understanding is that these guys are extremist and you can be that regardless of religion. And restricting all arabs because they can be terrorists is vague, I mean that wouldnt stop members from Abu Sajaf (sp?) doing the next attack, since they are alleged to be a part of Bin Ladens organization. Then stopping/restricting people of arabic decent wont acomplish anything, since the people commiting the action is not of arabic decent. Pedro, raised in a not to religious protestant/catholic household. ------------------------------ From: "johnaleen" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:14:05 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re:Master.... When i grow up i want to be a Weapons Master......:) I recon when there about to toss the dirt on me i should be ready for testing.... Ms. J grins Evilly.........:) ------------------------------ From: "johnaleen" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 13:21:52 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Fundraising Seminar- Traditional Doce Pares Espada ya Daga in the Sand Fundraising Seminar- Traditional Doce Pares Espada Ya Daga in the Sand The F.A.T.E. organization is hosting a Traditional Doce Pares Espada ya Daga Seminar on the Beach. Bring your sticks, wood knives, and wood swords. Feel the flow and motion of the core art, Taught in the sand as it was conceived, and the evolution began. Please note: we will be having this seminar on the beach in public, Weather permitting. Regardless of the recent events at the WTC, we had intended to not have metal training blades and only Wood or Plastic on the beach. We will have an alternative location indoors in case the weather does not allow us on the beach. This is a RAIN or SHINE Seminar. Instructor: Sifu Ken Andes Assistant Instructor: Don Pentz Traditional Tribal Drumbeats: Mr. Ian Carroll Saturday October 13th, 10:30 am to 3:30 pm Pre Reg price $ 45.00 before: (October 11) On the day $ 55.00 Location will be in either in Ventnor NJ or Brigantine NJ Both are located 10 Minutes from Atlantic City NJ. For further information and for Rain or Shine Locations Call or Email Mr. Biff ... 1-800-761-4946 Ms. J... 1-888-526-4626 Email ESPADA@f-a-t-e.org Make Checks payable to F.A.T.E., P.O. Box 125, Brigantine, NJ 08203 Note: For hard copies of the syllabus-seminar location and maps, Please included a self-addressed stamped envelope. I will be posting a full syllabus of this seminar in a week's time on line off our web site at www.f-a-t-e.org **All profits from this seminar will be going to help pay for the up coming 12 week Victims program Slotted for October 25th 2001** Further details for these programs can be found on the F.A.T.E org web site. With the added recent events of the WTC or nation is facing huge issues and added stress to the commintys at large, victims of Domestic Violence and Childhood neglect- abuse have even more to deal with now, especially here on the east coast. The effects of it being so close to them is present, Our children and general populous here and across America faced the fight or flight response to great danger, and they had no where to run and no one to fight, We are now seeing the early signs and effects in this area of Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) in our children and or families. Its not going to get better by itself and only worse if there are no resources and ways to try and balance some of the negative effects now. For more information on any of the issues above feel free to ask and email a note to ASK@f-a-t-e.org I have huge resources and information online that has been archived here for years. I just have not had time to get it online for our web site. YET.... Ms. J bows Deeply. Ms. Johnaleen K. Castro, AKA: Ms. J. Mr. Howard F. Bifson, AKA: Mr. BIFF ------------------------------ From: "LARRY ST. CLAIR" Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:26:22 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Screening Process hey mike, yeah I totally agree with the screening process. like I said later in my statement, I believe in teaching the defenses to the knife or many other things first. see who wants to stick it out and then when they've been around for 6 months or longer they can learn the feeder tricks of the trade. its always tough though to know who's who. but typically if they stick around long enough then they are good to stay. those that want to zip in and zip out and get as my instructor says "fast food martial arts" are the ones we water down the material even further so that they just want to leave. we all have to be careful and keep a watchful eye. on the up and up....what school in Nac, TX do you train at. I got a cousin there and we are located in Austin. hope all is well there, saint ------------------------------ From: Magdainst@aol.com Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:39:50 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: JFJKD w/all the orginal guys The MAGDA INSTITUTE of MARTIAL ARTS hosts The BRUCE LEE EDUCATIONAL FOUNDATION Southern California Regional Seminar OCTOBER 6-7, 2001 Train and learn with BRUCE LEE's original students from the Seattle, Oakland, and Los Angeles periods. Those sharing their knowledge are: Bob Bremer Taky Kimura Jerry Poteet Pete Jacobs Richard Bustillo Alan Joe Herb Jackson Steve Golden Ted Wong And the 2nd Generation: Tim Tackett Andy Kimura and Cass Magda SPECIAL GUEST: Shannon Lee Keasler Seminar Fees: Pre-Registration - After OCT 4, 2001 Hours Both Days $75 per Day $85 per Day 9:00am-12:00pm $125 for 2 Days $140 for 2 Days 2:00pm-5:00pm (Cash, Visa, or Check made payable to: Bruce Lee Education Foundation) Held At: The Magda Institute of Martial Arts 7255 Canby Ave. Reseda, CA 91335 (818) 342 - 2455 PARTICIPANTS WILL BE LIMITED TO 50 PEOPLE. Equipment possibly needed: shin-guards, boxing gloves, mouthpiece, focus gloves, comfortable clothes NO SPECTATORS - NO EXCEPTIONS Absolutely NO Videotaping or Audiotaping ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:12:15 PDT Subject: eskrima: Islam A good book that I read a couple years ago while on a cross country plane ride, Teach Yourself Islam by Ruqaiyyah Maqsood, 1994. It is one in a series of teach yourself world faiths books. ISBN = 0-8442-3746-9. It is an easy, quick read. I'll probably read it again... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 7:33:36 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #425 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.