From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #435 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 30 Sept 2001 Vol 08 : Num 435 In this issue: Re: eskrima: you gotta play this eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 eskrima: GM Ernesto Presas eskrima: kali/escrima instructors eskrima: Yet more terminolgy... eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Buz Grover" Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:56:48 -0400 Subject: Re: eskrima: you gotta play this Can't get past 72,500. Does this thing come chambered in .45? Buz Grover ------------------------------ From: Luis Pellicer III Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 10:10:24 +0800 Subject: eskrima: Mime-Version: 1.0 >I GUARANTEE YOU WILL LOVE THIS GAME,I scored 68500,so far, > 78,000. Those head shots with the perp using the hostage as cover are a bitch. Plus NO FRONT SIGHT!!!!! :) ------------------------------ From: "Kyud" Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 19:40:05 -0700 Subject: eskrima: GM Ernesto Presas GM Ernesto Presas is giving a seminar in Reno and Lake Tahoe. October 6th, 2001 Reno 11:00 AM. - 3:30 PM October 7th, 2001 Lake Tahoe 12 - 6 PM Go to http://www.arnisbalite.com/ for further information. ------------------------------ From: "Nolan Hernandez" Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 13:13:24 -0200 Subject: eskrima: kali/escrima instructors To any Kali/Escrima instructors in Germany, I'm living here near Kaiserslautern, Germany. Can anyone recommend a kali/escrima instructor nearby here? I'm open to any style, preferably Inosanto-Lacoste Blend, Lameco Escrima, Derobio Escrima, or Doce Pares, if available. Styles mixed with Brazilian Jiujitsu would be a plus too! Thanks. Nolan Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ From: T David Reyes Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 17:27:43 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Yet more terminolgy... on 9/25/01, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com at eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com wrote:>>> > also i am offended that there has been no visit to the >> philippines as a senior man in america, it makes sense >> to me he would see what is there before making a >> statement like what is dumug and kinomutai. any >> pilipino instructor can tell you the truth about that. >>>> > that.. we should be learning also other dialect before we comments on words > they said and used. > > Dumug or Dumog -s a Visayan word for Wrestling, Kinamotai, is a Visayan word > derived from the word Kamut meaning hand, put it together in Visayan Kinamut > meaning the used of hand, in Tagalog just simply means scratched.. > One might also look to the blending of a regional Philippine dialect with a foreign linguistic such as Spanish and Latin. In Stockton many of the elder Pinoys were also versed in Spanish, (among other languages) and they incoporated many of these loan words into their FMA and regional dialect. Such would be; Kino- from the Sugbuhanon, denotes the slapping or the paddling of water with your hands, a movement akin to the parry. Motay- from the Spanish, defines to a foreign object or substance to the eye resulting in loss of vision. (who remembers the cause and effect Juan Motay of Cheech and Chong experienced during his frequent bouts with loss of vision from a particular substance). :) Hence, "Kinomotay a blend word of Sugbuhanon and Spanish which would translate to the parrying or slapping away of the incoming object, and countering to the eyes with the ever popular "tuplok" (finger poke) or perhaps with a buntut "y garrote", or lapusan "de kutsillyo", etc. In summary, many of the Old Pinoys who migrated to the U.S. in the 1920's intermingled many dialects and foreign linguistics to define their FMA technique. Wherein many of todays terminologies and words are usurped directly and obviously from the English-Tagalog dictionairy. Ituloy Po, David Reyes~ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2001 8:19:22 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #435 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.