From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #447 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Tues, 9 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 447 In this issue: eskrima: What might scare an Islamist Terrorist? eskrima: Silat Seminars eskrima: RE: Convocation of Warriors eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #446 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ashley Bass" Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 21:57:00 -0700 Subject: eskrima: What might scare an Islamist Terrorist? From chapt 17 of Jungle Patrol, by Vic Hurley: "It was Colonel Alexander Rodgers of the 6th Cavalry who accomplished by taking advantage of religious prejudice what the bayonets and Krags had been unable to accomplish. Rodgers inaugurated a system of burying all dead juramentados in a common grave with the carcasses of slaughtered pigs. The Mohammedan religion forbids contact with pork; and this relatively simple device resulted in the withdrawal of juramentados to sections not containing a Rodgers. Other officers took up the principle, adding new refinements to make it additionally unattractive to the Moros. In some sections the Moro juramentado was beheaded after death and the head sewn inside the carcass of a pig. And so the rite of running juramentado, at least semi- religious in character, ceased to be in Sulu." This is not posted to disparage Moros or even Juramentados. Rather, it is an observation on an American reaction to conflict with an alien (to American mores) philosophy of war in which a goal of combat is one's own death in the company of as many personally slain enemies as possble. ashley ------------------------------ From: "Pentjakker" Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 23:12:52 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Silat Seminars For those of you who are in New England and would like a taste of some Pentjak Silat with an emphasis on beladiri (self-defense), don't miss this opportunity! Guru Jim Ingram will share from Pukulan Pentjak Silat Mustika Kweetang. An art composed of multiple strikes, takedowns, sweeps, joint locks, grappling/wrestling, stick and knife fighting. The system is a combination of finesse, applying physics, knowledge of anatomy, and how energy is directed. The emphasis is on econmy of motion and realistic self defense. The seminar will be at Don Mackay's Martial Arts Academy in Nashua, NH on Saturday, October 20 from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.? (No lunch break) Preregistration is $50.00\ $65.00 at the door. For more information and directions, contact: (ph) 603-889-6181 (fx) 603-889-1497 Holland Summit 2002 Jim Ingram has arranged with the Pentjak Silat pioneers in the Netherlands for a series of workshops in August 2002 in Dordrecht and Amsterdam. The workshops will feature the following: Paatje (Bapak) Phefferkorn S.H. (Setia Hati) Paatje (Bapak) Hebpy Vincent (Poekoelan Betawi Combinatie) Paatje (Bapak) Theuvenet (Tjikalong and weaponry) Paatje (Bapak) Nelson (Pamur Bandai) Honorary guest Dolf de Vries, eldest son of the legendary Ernest "Ventje" de Vries There will be a group from the U.S. going to Holland and staying at a resort in Zeeland. The workshops will be at night, leaving the day free for sightseeing. The workshops are scheduled August 5 - 9, 2002. COST: $300 per person. This reserves a bed in a condominium unit and pays for the persons transportation expenses for the training while in Holland. The condo's accomodate 6 adults. If anyone wants to have a condominium to themself, it is $850 for the week plus $150 per person for transportation expenses while in Holland. To ensure reservation please pay by January 15, 2002. Airfare and meals are NOT included. The check should be made out to Jim Ingram but should be mailed to Jess Valmonte at the following address: Jess Valmonte 4230 245th Avenue SE Issaquah, WA 98029 Jess will be collecting the checks and entertaining questions from those interested in going. Contact him via e-mail address (valmontej@home.com) or home phone (425-391-1936). Regards, Travis ------------------------------ From: "Darrin & Kim Coe" Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 00:53:14 -0600 Subject: eskrima: RE: Convocation of Warriors ok, here goes with the directions, to the convocation of warriors in canon city, colorado. hope I get them right. I'll also leave you my phone number in case they're off. If you're coming from denver or colorado springs you'll take hwy 115 to hwy 50 (there's lots of construction so be careful) take hwy 50 into canon city to 9th street. turn north on 9th take 9th to washington (there'll be an elementary school on your left at the intersection) you'll then turn right onto washington. take washington to tennessee (road sign reads "TENN"), turn left onto tennesee, which would be north the convocation will be held at the house just past, the log cabin house on the right side of the road. (it's the second to the last house on tennessee on the right) there will be some signs up to direct folks. remeber this will be an outdoor event unless weather is so inclement that we just can't be outside. so bring a variety of clothing and blankets as well as some snacks and stuff. darrin coe, director MARF 719-275-5907 - -----Original Message----- From: Roan Grimm [mailto:poidog@repairman.com] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 7:03 PM To: loki@ris.net Subject: Convocation of Warriors Darrin- Hey, this is Kalani from down in Las Cruces, NM. I'm going to be coming up for the fighting and I'll need directions. I knoiw how to get to Canon City, but don't know where I'm going after that. Do you have a map or something? Any help will be much appreciated. BTW, some of my co-workers are coming up with me. There female and have no interest in fighting, but were wondering if they could watch. We're all riding up together (ROAD TRIP!!!) and I was hoping they could watch as they've never seen anything like this before. Anyway, take it easy and I look forward to seeing you on the 13th. Peace, respect and an open mind. Aloha, Kalani _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ------------------------------ From: Seraksatu@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:34:04 EDT Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #446 Greetings mr. Joe: The pronounciation is almost the same, since most of the Phillipine language is malay based. "H" in the pronouciation "Tuan" however would be next to the "N" more in the fashion of "Too-ahn" Guro Dan Inosanto is completing his higher Guru levels at the moment at the VDT Academy in Pentjak Silat Serak. In earning the ranking it wll be "Guru" Pentjak Silat Serak By June of 2002 at the Ring of Fire - Seminar Tentative in Las Vegas Nevada Take care and Hormat Pak Victor de Thouars << From: Joe Marszalek Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 07:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: Tuhon Yesterday I was watching the Paul De Thouars Bukti Negara video from 1991 that features Burt Richardson. At the beginning of the Guro Dan interview the title shows him as Guro Tuan Dan Inosanto. I assume "Tuan" is an Inodnesian term pronounced the same way we say "Tuhon". Joe Marszalek >> ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 7:41:11 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #447 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.