From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #455 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 14 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 455 In this issue: eskrima: WorldNetDaily eskrima: State of Arnis eskrima: Harimaw Buno eskrima: Kids eskrima: anting-anting eskrima: FMA to Kids Re: eskrima: State of Arnis Re: eskrima: FMA to Kids eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #454 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com http://Inayan.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 9:38:41 PDT Subject: eskrima: WorldNetDaily > > A couple asked me for this post. Sorry for the daily, took me awhile to > > find the address again. > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24831 > > Woof Mik: > > This is at variance from other things I have been reading. How would you > summarize the dependability and biases of this source? I am not familiar > with it. WorldNetDaily? I have not read the above piece, however I do know that Col. (perhaps Lt. Col.) Geoff Metcalf (Ret) is a reporter/broadcaster with the popular WorldNetDaily. For better or worse, he usually falls on the conservative side of an issue. I have found at least his reports to be very good and informative. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Stephen Jones" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:29:38 Subject: eskrima: State of Arnis Hello eskrimadors, Sometimes, especially since the passing of Punong Guro Edgar Sulite and now more recently Professor Remy Presas, I worry about the state of Arnis worldwide. I pray for a wave of selfless people who will take Arnis into the future with the integrity it deserves and needs. In my own part of the world I really wonder about the standard of martial arts in general and think that a lot of it is a con. I mean people getting to high dans who need to get people to be nice to them to do their techniques and cant spar for nothing. It really worries me why people would bother with it who were of sound mind. Sorry to pass too much comment on what may be obvious to you. Our club, which is exclusively Arnis, has run for 10 years and we spar as frequently as we can. My mottos of the moment are 'dont build yourself up or you will fall down' and 'it is better to be willing to be hit than to only want to hit'. We want to set a higher standard in training and do so with intention. Regards, Steve _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Black" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:47:33 Subject: eskrima: Harimaw Buno Gat-puno Abon, I saw you a few years ago, when you did a Buno seminar. At that time, you showed some basic positions from this system. If I remember correctly, you were working on some modifications to counter the things that were being shown in NHB competition. It seems like you've been very busy, but have you tinkered with the Buno at all, or used it against other popular submission styles? Kevin Black shillelagh2@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Jason Inay" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:46:00 Subject: eskrima: Kids Hello all, My sister conducts a Jr's or kids class every week, it is a community service program. In there we have em as young as 5. But only for Sticks and Hands, no knife or sword atm. I occasionally teach two brothers some siniwali and kdm, they are both under 13. We also have two promising students in the 12-13 age group in class now, they train with the adults. The comment I get from visiting students, is that working out with them is not like working out with kids, it is more like working out with a shorter, lighter adult. The young boy is showing great aptitude, my father would be proud of him. And the young lady is already a force to reckon with.... My daughter has been 'playing' with it for a year now. And she came to class just recently to get more used to the class environment. She has fun, and there is no pressure, just like dad taught me and sis. She is 3 now.. just wait! I and my sister started very young, with knife, sword, stick, hand...etc. I was 6, my sister was 5. My dad had us learn under some of his trusted people at the time, and sent us off for lessons with Master Tacosa, "Uncle Jimmy" to us. Dad would occasional take us aside for a pointer or two, and Uncle Remi (Estrella) used to have us beat the tar out of eachother... this is when I learned my sister likes to hit hard. Suro J. Inay "It is not in the Knowing..., It is in the Doing.." Suro Mike Inay 1944-2000 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:44:27 PDT Subject: eskrima: anting-anting Repeat of an old post... Shrouded in secrecy and mystery, the anting-anting is a subject close to the Filipino's heart. It holds promise of invincibility, of victory and of heroic deeds. Legends have been born and men have died because of the lure of the mysterious and powerful anting-anting. The anting-anting made a resurgence into popularity in the early 70's when the film Nardong Putik chronicling the life of the outlaw Leonardo Manecio made its debut. The hero of the film, a local Robin Hood, credited his ability to survive and escape numerous ambushes and gunfights to his anting-anting. There is much dispute as to what his anting-anting really was. Some claim it was a smooth pebble of rare and mysterious material that Nardong Putik kept under his tongue. While others say it is a 66-day old fetus that he kept in a small crystal container. Whatever his anting-anting was, Nardong Putik's ability to elude the law and his enemies made him a legend and a hero to many people. Jikiri, the noted Muslim pirate, eluded the Philippine Constabulary and US soldiers for over three years. Yet Jikiri boldly operated in broad daylight. The legendary source of his galing (gift) - an anting-anting, of course. These stories and more contribute to the growing number of legends and belief in the efficacy of the anting-anting. Combined with the equally mysterious Orascion (a special verse or prayer), warriors can be psyched to become confident and daring to undertake suicidal missions. There are many prescribed ways of acquiring an anting-anting. The easiest is to have an existing, sacred anting-anting bestowed to you as an inheritance or reward. This happens very rarely, for the agimat, or amulet, is usually buried with its owner and master for continued protection against spirits from the nether world. Stealing an anting-anting makes it lose its power and is therefore a useless alternative. An anting-anting loses its power when it leaves its Master's possession without his knowledge or blessing. Various types of anting-anting can be bought at holy places but these are patay (dead/blanks) with no power whatsoever. These blanks have to undergo sacred and secret rituals to become empowered and effective. There are many different methods to make an anting-anting sagrado (sacred). The most popular day for the anting-anting to have birtud (power) is on Good Friday. This, according to legend, is when God abandons His creation and the spirits roam freely and can be lured, captured, harnessed and enslaved by the brave and mighty. Another popular occasion is at midnight during a full moon with the ritual taking place at a cross road or a cemetery with a sacrificial black cat as a bait or offering. Another kind of anting-anting, known as a Mutya, comes from plants, such as a banana or a palm tree. This requires a lot of patience and diligence for one has to wait until the heart of the banana discharges its essence, a crystal clear solid drop that must not be allowed to touch the ground and must be swallowed immediately. With this captive prize, legends say that a successful and prosperous life is guaranteed. Some types of anting-anting or orascion are meant as love charms. Most are for protection -- against the forces of darkness, against one's enemies, and even against sickness. Others are for special gifts, such as the mysterious and esoteric art of Hilot (massage and healing), Hula (fortune telling) and Kulam (spells and witchcraft). However, every anting-anting and every orascion carries with it an immutable commitment. One must be prepared to perform the required rituals, the mandated daily devotion, the annual pilgrimage, to keep the birtud of the anting-anting. Man will always be fascinated with this mysterious harbinger of success, victory and protection. Many, though not all, of the Philippine Grand Masters and Masters of martial arts believe in the power and protection of the anting-anting and orascion. And everyone of these believers, without exception, recognize the value and worth of diligence, dedication and discipline in martial arts training. Like the anting-anting, the easiest way to learn a martial art is to find a good teacher, a worthy master. Someone who, like the anting-anting's master, will pass on to you, the secret and power of his own knowledge and skills. Again, like the anting-anting, this knowledge and skill must be nurtured with diligent practice, with moral righteousness, discipline, devotion and dedication. ------------------------------ From: "Don Edwards" Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 23:12:43 +0000 Subject: eskrima: FMA to Kids I teach FMA - Doce Pares style - to kids..starting at ages 5 and up!!. Kids at 5 can learn basic 4 counts..open and closed positions, striking angles and blocks..even a basic form..usually I dont teach full sets but break it into bit size chunks for them... as they get older they're learning some complicated espada y daga sets etc. ..although a short stick is substituted for a knife! I dont teach knife to children! Don Edwards Integrated Martial Arts & Fitness Livingston NJ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:49:41 PDT Subject: Re: eskrima: State of Arnis > Sometimes, especially since the passing of Punong Guro Edgar Sulite and now > more recently Professor Remy Presas, I worry about the state of Arnis > worldwide. I pray for a wave of selfless people who will take Arnis into the > future with the integrity it deserves and needs. Given... the fairly recent loss of Mike Inay (we miss you, Suro), Tatang Ilustrisimo, Edgar Sulite, Remy Presas and Prof. Vee has been a HUGE shock. Plus within the last decade also include Angel Cabales, Floro Villabrille and Braulio Pedoy. But just a few of those still with us, young in heart if not in body, are: Cacoy Canete, Diony Canete, Dong Cuesta, Richard Bustillo, Dan Inosanto, Al Concepcion, Jimmy Tacosa, Steve Klement, Tony Diego, Yuli Romo, Rey Galang, Christopher Ricketts, Ben Lema, Emanuel Hart, Leo Gaje, Bill McGrath, Elmer Ybanez, Jose Mena, Andy Abrian, Dentoy Revillar, Bobby Taboada, Ernesto Presas, Narrie Babao, our Dog Brother friends, Matt Marinas, Tom Bisio, Vincent Cabales, Romeo Mamar, David James, Mel Lopez, Mark Harrell, Jason Inay, Danny Guba plus dozens of others I'm forgetting to mention, please forgive me. I understand your concern, especially with the increasing popularity of the FMAs, but I think (hope & pray) we're ok for now... Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:30:39 PDT Subject: Re: eskrima: FMA to Kids > I teach FMA - Doce Pares style - to kids..starting at ages 5 and up!!. Do you encounter many concerns from the parents when teaching sticks to the kids? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: sdrape@kbs-filipino-martial-systems.org Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 19:05:39 +0300 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #454 > > A couple asked me for this post. Sorry for the daily, took me awhile to > find the address again. > > > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24831 > > > > Mitakuye Oyasin. > > > > Be well, > > Mik I don't know much about this web site, but what they have reported is just plain ridiculous. In fact, China has just banned people from many Arab nations (I think it was 13 countries) from even travelling on their internal air flights. While they may have some concerns about the US and Russia getting closer, to make statements about defending the Taleban is Yellow Journalism at best. China has its own Islamic extremist problem in XinJiang (their western-most province), and they would never support an extreme regime on their vulnerable western side. In fact, it is much more likely that they are sending forces to the area to make sure that there is no spill-over of refugees or anyone trying to escape the attacks by entering China. The last thing they want is a bunch of angry extremeists who got thrown out of one country and want to begin again in a new place, especially a place where anti- government feelings are simmering just below the surface. Steve ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 7:56:44 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #455 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.