From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #462 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Thur, 18 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 462 In this issue: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #461 eskrima: Re: Blood Groove eskrima: Chemical - Biological Agents eskrima: Re:Complete Kano Jui Jutsu eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #461 eskrima: Blood groove function... eskrima: Re: Call for Articles, on Awareness -Terrorism Awareness- De-Escalation eskrima: Re: "blood grooves" eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. 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Lujan" > Well Luis, I think (and it's just my opinion, FWIW) that it's human nature. People tend to look at things from other cultures as "exotic" and things from their own culture as "boring." Guro Dan Inosanto has said things along these lines at seminars when talking about his lack of interest in FMA when he was growing up. [Big old paraphrase follows :-] Ed Parker said, "Dan, you really should look at the martial arts of your own culture." Guro Dan said, "It's just stick fighting ... I'm not really interested in that." Parker said, "No. It's a lot more. You should really look into it." And, as they say, the rest is history :-) Another comment (related) made by Pak Herman Suwanda at a seminar (also paraphrased): "In Indonesia, mothers look at the TKD and Karate students in their nice white uniforms and pretty belts. Then they look at the Silat students with their ratty sarongs and no shirts rolling around in the dirt. Which image is more appealing to the mothers?" As to why the government would do something like this ... it's made up of a bunch of human beings and, therefore, tends to function as a big schizophrenic with multiple-personality disorder :-) Mike ===== Mike Casto Asian Fighting Arts - Texas Representative Nacogdoches, Texas - --------------------------------- Asian Fighting Arts - http://www.asianfightingarts.com Lansdale's Self-Defense - http://www.joerlansdale.com/shenchuan Martial Arts Seminar Listings - http://www.guild-hall.com/seminars Martial Arts Schools Database - http://www.guild-hall.com/schools __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Nelson Christopher" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:10:08 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Blood Groove I can't speak for designers, but I recall that this feature on the Marine Officer's sword described as a blood groove during official periods of instruction when I was in the Marines (K-Bar too). Also, the braided leather lanyard attached to the pommel of the sword ends in what was called a blood knot. The barrel-shaped knot had serrated perforations along its length that, when compressed, would open out. After battle, it was said that the sword would be passed through the knot and the knot used to clean blood off the blade. This never seemed likely to meムif nothing else, you would wind up with a pretty filthy knot. However, the use of the sword was entirely ceremonial, so I never had a chance to put it to the test. Chris Nelson kurineru@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ かわいい & 使えるブラウザで、インターネット生活もっと楽しくなる! http://explorer.msn.co.jp/ ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 8:52:51 PDT Subject: eskrima: Chemical - Biological Agents Forwarded message: U.S. Department of State Washington, D.C. FACT SHEET CHEMICAL - BIOLOGICAL AGENTS The recent terrorist threats and confirmed cases of exposure to anthrax have caused an increase in anxiety over the possibility of chemical and biological attacks (CBA). Currently, the method of delivery of anthrax has been by letter or package. While the risk of such attacks is limited, it cannot be excluded. As always, the Department will promptly share with American citizens overseas any credible information about threats to their safety. Americans should stay informed and be prepared for any eventuality. In 1999, the Department of Defense announced its intention to commence the Family and Force Protection Initiative (FFPI) in order to provide enhanced protection to the dependents of U.S. military service members and to civilian Department of Defense (DOD) employees and their families. This program was first implemented for U.S. Forces Korea. The Department of State has had a chemical and biological countermeasure program since 1998, when it began to deploy chemical antidotes and antibiotics to selected posts abroad. While we have no information to indicate there is an imminent threat from use of anthrax or other biological agents as a weapon against our overseas missions at this time, the Department is expanding its countermeasure program. As a precaution, the Department requested our missions overseas to stock a three-day supply of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin for all individuals who work in or frequent the missions. This small supply of ciprofloxacin is being pre-positioned to ensure rapid access to this protective antibiotic for our employees in case of an Anthrax exposure in an overseas USG facility and would allow the mission sufficient time to provide access to care for all individuals exposed while securing additional supplies of antibiotics. Once an exposure is suspected, all individuals who had been exposed in our workplace would be provided antibiotics pending a full investigation of the exposure. This would include any private American citizen present in the facility at the time of exposure. Again, if the Department becomes aware of any specific and credible threat to the safety and security of American citizens abroad, that information will be provided to them promptly. Exposures to CBA that occur outside USG facilities would require the involvement of local public health authorities who would provide information and if necessary, protective antibiotics to the general public. Ciprofloxacin and other antibiotics effective against Anthrax, including doxycycline and amoxicillin are available with a prescription in most pharmacies throughout the world. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is the lead government agency on infectious diseases, including chemical/biological agents (CBA). For detailed information on CBA, including Anthrax, inquirers are referred to the CDC Internet home page at http://www.cdc.gov. The CDC's international travelers hotline telephone number is 1-877-FYI-TRIP (1-877-394-8747); fax: 1-888-CDC-FAXX (1-888-232-3299). As always, American citizens should review their own personal security situations and take those precautions they deem appropriate to ensure their well-being. Some general information on chemical-biological agents (CBA) follows: A. Biological agents can be dispersed by an aerosol spray that must be inhaled. However, these agents can also be used to contaminate food, water and other products. Attention to basic food hygiene when traveling abroad is very important. A. Some chemical agents may be volatile--evaporating rapidly to form clouds of agent. Others may be persistent. These agents may act directly on the skin, lungs, eyes, respiratory tract or be absorbed through your skin and lungs causing injury. Choking and nerve agents damage the soft tissue in these organs. A. When properly used, appropriate masks are effective protection to prevent the inhalation of either biological or chemical agents; however this assumes an adequate warning. Gas masks alone do not protect against agents that act through skin absorption. Those who wish to acquire protective equipment for personal use should contact commercial vendors. A. There is an incubation period after exposure to biological agents. It is essential that you seek appropriate care for illnesses acquired while traveling abroad to assure prompt diagnosis and treatment. A. One of the biological warfare agents is the spore-forming bacterium that causes Anthrax, an acute infectious disease. It should be noted, however, that effective dispersal of the Anthrax bacteria is difficult. * Anthrax is treatable if that treatment is initiated promptly after exposure. The post-exposure treatment consists of certain antibiotics administered in combination with the vaccine. * An anthrax vaccine that confers protective immunity does exist, but is not readily available to private parties. Efficacy and safety of use of this vaccine for persons under 18 or over 65 and pregnant women have not been determined. * The anthrax vaccine is produced exclusively by Bioport under contract to the Department of Defense. Virtually all vaccine produced in the United States is under Defense Department contract primarily for military use and a small number of other official government uses. * For additional information, please consult your health care provider or local health authority. ------------------------------ From: Victor Cushing Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:23:08 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re:Complete Kano Jui Jutsu Alain asked if this book was available, it is, but really expensive a collector's item. One is listed for sale $238.00 at http://www.alibris.com/search/detail.cfm?chunk=25&qtopic=Judo&S=R&bid=8009401874&page=16&matches=500&qsort= Vic Cushing ------------------------------ From: "Jeremy Bays" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 10:41:53 -0500 Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #461 Have your friend go to his local library and request a copy via inter-library loan. I know several libraries that have this book (Ball State University in Muncie Indiana is one of them). Remember that Kano is NOT the author of the book. The author is H. Irving Hancock. The book was published in London and New York by G.P. Putnam's Sons (1927). I scanned the section of kyusho points (vital points) and put the information on this site: http://www.homestead.com/kyusho/kano.html Thanks, Jeremy Bays - --------------------------------------------------------------- I have a friend looking for "The Complete Kano Jiu Jutsu." Does anyone know how to find a copy? Anyone have a copy they want to part with? He had been told there were photo copies floating around as well. Anyone know? Thanks! ------------------------------ From: "Walter Vorhauer" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 08:38:07 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Blood groove function... Greetings to All, To my understanding, the blood groove found on swords and knives was designed to allow air into the blood stream. When an individual would thrust with a sword/knife, the blood groove would allow air to enter into the body. Generally, air (or any non-diffused gas) within the blood stream is a BAD thing, having an air pocket or air within the blood system could cause an embolisim (not sure on the spelling of that), from which a person could die from. I'm sure you've heard of a Pulmonary embolisim? Kind of the same thing here. At least, this is the reason that I was told. Being a biologist, I can see the rational behind the blood groove, if of course, that was the intended purpose of a blood groove to begin with. Again, I'm only relating what I have been told, I personally haven't done the research behind the whole blood groove design. Waltyr __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com ------------------------------ From: "johnaleen" Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 11:43:17 -0400 Subject: eskrima: Re: Call for Articles, on Awareness -Terrorism Awareness- De-Escalation Call for Articles, on Awareness -Terrorism Awareness- De-Escalation With the recent events this past few months, its become apparent that we have many that wish to express their feelings and wisdom to others in the national community on the issues and the awareness that is needed to deal with the realties of Terrorism, terrorist acts and War against us as a nation. On The FATE web site http://www.f-a-t-e.org/articals/victims/terrorisim.html I have written 2 articles, they were put there a few weeks after the first attack made on the WTC, here on the east coast. Since that time I have been sent a number of other articles and personal perspectives of what we face as a nation by others with personal or educated experience in the area of personal self-defense, awareness- anti terrorism- war relief work and so forth. I am in the process of formatting them and putting them on the above web site page. The page has been listed as a resource in a number of areas, including the east coast schools, a few of the community organizations and its been distributed widely on line and then in our local press "in a small way". Because I have been a member here on the digest for many years weather active at times or hiding out for months, read it I do and I have a general perspective of who is here and the education and wisdom that is on this board based on the educations and life styles. Therefore, I am offering space on this page for appropriate links to or articles from members of the community here and in a number of other areas. The articles will be formatted in both HTML and in PDF they will be held there on the site for others to see and read, I will not just be putting anything I get on the page, the page is geared for awareness of the issues and ways to keep the nation from going into condition black and blind panic. Its there to give realty but at the same time deal with the issues and help the nation understand what can be done on a personal level to combat the acts themselves and then the long term effects of them in our commintys at large. When accepted, the articles will not be changed in word, or intent. I ask only that you sign a name to it, weather it's your name or under an AKA and you have an address for others to respond to on the bottom of the article. i.e. set up a new email account for it if you do not have one now that you want to use for the public, because this page will be getting much coverage over the next few weeks and into the next 6 months. Send all articles too: fate_aware@hotmail.com If you have any questions as to the liability's or the FATE org web sites policy's and disclaimers for the views on writings for the site you can view the disclaimer and waver that is located here: http://www.f-a-t-e.org/pd.html Please feel free to distribute this letter to any that would be interested in putting something there, for people that need a hard address and want to send hard copy's, it can go to F.A.T.E. PO Box 125 Brigantine NJ. 08203 Ms. J bows deeply... CEO F.A.T.E www.f-a-t-e.org ------------------------------ From: Tom Valesky Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: eskrima: Re: "blood grooves" I did a fair amount of reading on knifemaking at one point. The explanation that I recall is that they substantially lighten the blade without decreasing strength much. Hey neat! I was right. I just did a google search to figure out what they're really called ("fullers") and found the following explanation: http://www.sff.net/people/pff/fuller.txt ============================================================================ Tom Valesky -- tvalesky@patriot.net -- http://www.patriot.net/users/tvalesky ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2001 16:16:33 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #462 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply.