From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #465 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sun, 21 Oct 2001 Vol 08 : Num 465 In this issue: eskrima: Tagi-amo eskrima: Fuller eskrima: congrats to Pak Vik eskrima: Re:blood grove vs stiffness eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com http://Inayan.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 10:36:03 PDT Subject: eskrima: Tagi-amo From thinkquest.org. Tagi-amo The love potion seems to be a common entity among, the different Filipino ethnic groups, and this is nowhere more evident than in the presence of a counterpart term for it in their respective vocabularies. Among the majority ethnic groups, it is gayuma to the Tagalogs, tagi-amo or tai-ruot to the Ilocanos, tagi-amo to the Pangasinenses, lomay to Cebuanos and likit to the Waray-warays, among others. As for the cultural minorities, it is imod to the Ifugaos, pamanglo to the Mangyans, panghilas to the Tausogs, katao to the Maranaos, kabibi to the Bagobos and limbut to the Tirurays among others. The popular concept of love potions constitution is, of course, roots of rare plants immersed in coconut oil. The mixture of these produces a foam and this is the thing that has to rubbed to the skin of the girl whose amour must be conquered. However, its form subscribes to certain variations, one being that of a drink. Definitely such a variation is the katao whose main ingredient is the so called doka tonoi, a kind of gun extracted from a plant that is known to grow only in the forbidden sanctuaries of the Lanao jungles which the Maranaos claim as their ancestral domain. Another form katao is the mixture of powdered mice and bits of a girls nail and hair which the weaker sex try to slip into the food of their heart throb in expectations that is the way to make him take notice of her and fall in love. The pamanglo, which the Mangyans cannot do without when going a courting, is described as a strap of leathery - objects worn on the arms like an armband. With the unquestioned efficacy, it is said to hit more often than it misses. The Tausogs seem to boast of the most number of love potions. The basis one, of course, is the panghilas. Another is the panghinang-hinang. But the most intriguing is the so- called palmanis since it is the weaker sex who avail of it. Ordinarily, it is the men who uses love potion, and the palmanis really provides a twist to this popular image. But perhaps it is also a reflection of the quality of their manhood ( theirs must be the kind that are successful with women) or, for that matter and the same token, a reflection of their women-hood: men-chasers perhaps. Whichever it is between these two alternatives two alternatives, let not the burden of explanation fall on the shoulder of any outsider to their culture but let it devolve upon the Tausogs themselves, lest things turn out to be inaccurate and smack of distortion. That they are not alone in this deviation should be enough cause for comfort. For the Maranaos have a counter-part of the palmanis in the katao. An aspect of the courtship traditions of two Muslim-oriented tribes - the so-called pag-uwi of the Tausogs and the so-called miniway of the Samals - somehow affirms the aforecited quality. In both the initiative emanates from the weaker sex. In other countries like Africa, the most common love potions include the wormhood, marijuana and rhinoceros horn, all of which have been proven to be potent aphrodisiacs. We are told that rhino horn is so abundant in African town-ships, especially in the store-cupboard of witch doctors and sorceresses. Even brothel areas yield some of it. If rhino horn is being singled out in significance herein, it is because of the brisk business it inspires. Sailors make it a point to stop at African ports just so they can smuggle some of it into Arabian countries where it commands exorbitant prices, with Europe and the United States sharing minimal percentage of trade. The varied opinions concerning the love potions efficacy seems to be dictated by its price. The real McCoy is said to be prohibitive. ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 19:54:47 PDT Subject: eskrima: Fuller FWIW, more good info on a Fuller, aka Blood Groove or Gutter, is be found at: http://www.howstuffworks.com/sword-making1.htm "The fuller is a narrow groove that runs most of the length of many swords. Most people believe that it is there to allow the blade to be easily removed by blood escaping through the channel, thereby reducing suction. Contrary to popular belief, the fuller is not a channel for blood to run along. The actual reason for the fuller is to decrease the weight of the blade without diminishing the strength. Use of a fuller allows a bladesmith to use less material to comprise the blade, making it lighter without sacrificing too much structural integrity. This is similar to the use of an I-beam when building a skyscraper." ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 21:28:54 PDT Subject: eskrima: congrats to Pak Vik Pak Vic, Congrats on the fine article about you in the current issue (December) of Black Belt magazine. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "Reekers" Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:35:13 -0700 Subject: eskrima: Re:blood grove vs stiffness Joe wrote: [Okay, so what substantive role does the blood groove/fuller play? The bottom line is, it does two things: 1. It stiffens the blade 2. It lightens the blade] From my 20 years as an Engineer and what has been told to me by my Instructors, I'd have to agree with Joe. I'd like to quantify item #1 though, so those of you that get understandably bored with Math and Physics, please just move on to the next post. The term stiffness is defined as an object's resistance to bending under stress. This is dictated by both the Material's Elastic Modulus and it's Moments of Inertia. The Modulus is loosely defined as the force required to elongate a material. Pulling a material and measuring how much it stretches does this. Th object's shape dictates the Moments of Inertia. An easy way to demonstrate this is to take a 2 X 6 and lay it on it's broad side. Step on it and see how much it flexes then lay it on its narrow side and that it flexes much less. The mechanism behind this is that the material above the center of the beam is in compression and the material below the beam is in tension. The more material the beam has away from the center the better torque (tension/compression) capabilities of the beam. The stiffer the material the more resistance the outer most material is resistant to compressing or elongating. Steel "I" beam is a perfect example. So why did I go through all this BS? Because IMHO a "Blood Grove" is used to maximize the benefit of having a lightweight structure yet retain its resistance to bending. Thanks for letting me express my .02 cents. Ron http://thundercenter.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 10:38:23 PDT Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #465 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11!