From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #482 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Fri, 2 Nov 2001 Vol 08 : Num 482 In this issue: eskrima: RE: Kukri eskrima: Re: blooding the kukri eskrima: throwing Kukri? eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #481 eskrima: Re: throwing the kukri eskrima: reminder eskrima: Re: Gary H eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #481 eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1200 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com http://Inayan.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "In Chun Kim" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 10:30:10 -0500 Subject: eskrima: RE: Kukri > Are folks talking about the notch on the choil of the blade? Called a > Spanish notch if on a Bowie knife? While that is called a blood letting > notch on a Kukri, it really has nothing to do blood letting. As > others have > indicated, that is really a myth. A kukri is a utility knife, > used frequently > thru the day for a variety of tasks. Supposedly the notch is a > very old part > of the kukri blade design and is there to give respect to their God. From what I have been told, the notch at the base of the blade on a Kukri is religious symbolism. It is a cutout of the shape of the tines of a trident and is supposed to represent the Trident of Shiva. As for practicality... I haven't the foggiest. In Chun ------------------------------ From: HENSHIN@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:35:51 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: blooding the kukri It's funny that this comes up every now and then. For anyone who wants the real story check out Himalyan Imports (I don't remember the web site, but just do a search and it will come up). The owner, a super nice guy named Bill, has been importing every conceivable style of Kukri for years. He actually owns a factory in Nepal. He is married to a nepali I beleive, and the man who runs his factory in Nepal is an ex-Ghurka soldier. He can cite chapter and verse on the blooding myth. And he can also give you all the known explanations for the notch in the Kukri (which is NOT present in every style). While you are at it, check out his stuff too for some great kukris at great prices. Cecil Burch ------------------------------ From: "C. Herrman" Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:33:43 -0800 Subject: eskrima: throwing Kukri? Hello, >Something I have always wondered about, being blade heavy does the Kukri knife make a good throwing weapon? Anyone know? I don't have an answer, but did notice in The Weekly Standard "Unleash the Gurkhas" (now posted at www.dogbrothers.com) the following: "Their signature blade is called the kukri. Gurkhas have been known to decapitate their enemies with it (it can also double as a deadly boomerang)." ??? Cheers, Chris H. ------------------------------ From: Bladewerkrr@aol.com Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 11:44:19 EST Subject: eskrima: Re: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #481 In a message dated 11/2/01 7:06:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com writes: << I no longer say bad guys. Guy is too warm, too familiar, too colloquial for the evil ones. So: bad men.) >> Wow where is the political correctness in that? Seems we need to call them bad women/men, as she/he is doing her/his terrorist activities as she/he thinks best. Isn't it strange, when we have something of real importance to consider all that "how to properly gender write/talk" seems so trivial and inconsequential? I did notice though that the writer, a female, didn't mind letting the masculine cover all the bad. Perhaps now that the world has changed and people realize that there is a life and it is precious, we might as a nation, get over this sort of crap. Bear ------------------------------ From: "Javier Palomo" Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 10:52:06 -0600 Subject: eskrima: Re: throwing the kukri Richard; "Something I have always wondered about, being blade heavy does the Kukri knife make a good throwing weapon? Anyone know?" According to Hank McEvoy, founder of the American Knife Throwers Alliance and of the Tru-Balance Knife Co, it's one of the world only naturally balanced throwing knives, the other being the bowie knife. When I say naturally balanced, I refer to the fact that the kukri was not designed to be thrown, though it can be. I've actually heard people claim that on a good throw the blade will come back like a boomerang. LOL! The kukri sure is surounded by a lot of myth, despite being such a practical blade. Javier PS: I should metion that I've tried to throw mine many times, with only limited success...then again, I'm not that proficent of a knife thrower yet. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 9:44:49 PST Subject: eskrima: reminder Just a friendly reminder of what is on-topic for this forum. Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Q: What type of messages belong on this distribution list(in priority order)? A: For the Eskrima list: - Filipino martial arts - FMA history - Indonesian martial arts - Martial arts - Combat weapons training - Seminar/tourny announcements - Filipino culture - Filipino history ------------------------------ From: "Bill Lowery" Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:19:37 -0000 Subject: eskrima: Re: Gary H Hi Gary, I believe the idea behind the "don't resheath until..." is based on actual combat, not practice. If you are going to pull the knife against an enemy - you use it. Bill ------------------------------ From: Mike Casto Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 12:29:40 -0600 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #481 << Something I have always wondered about, being blade heavy does the Kukri knife make a good throwing weapon? Anyone know? >> Well, the only reference I've heard was from Uncle Bill de Thouars. He related a story to me from his youth. He and his brothers were interred in a Japanese prison camp during WWII. The Japanese set up the camp (per Dr. Maung Gyi who was part of the Gurkha regiment that rescued the de Thouars from the camp) so that the Japanese soldiers were in the middle where the prisoners were kept. This made bombing nearly impossible without killing the prisoners. So the Allies sent in the Gurkha. According to Uncle Bill, after the Gurkha had taken over the camp and freed the prisoners, they then led them all into friendly territory. He said that one of the Japanese prisoners broke free and ran. He expected a Gurkha to go after the guy ... none did. One of the Gurkha took a loop of cord that was attached to his belt and looped the other end around the handle of his kukri (or maybe it was already looped), then he threw the kukri. It hit and killed the Japanese soldier. The Gurkha tugged the blade free and pulled the knife back with the cord, wiped it clean and continued walking. ** Please note, any mistakes should be attributed to me ... Uncle Bill tells the story much better :-) ** Based on this story, I'd guess that not only *can* the knife be thrown, that the Gurkha (or some of them anyway) train to do so. Mike ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:11:12 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #482 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11!