From: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com To: eskrima-digest@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Subject: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #530 Reply-To: eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Errors-To: eskrima-digest-owner@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com Precedence: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest Sat, 15 Dec 2001 Vol 08 : Num 530 In this issue: eskrima: 15th Annual ASLET Training Seminar eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #529 Sparring Gear eskrima: why all the padding now? eskrima: Anting-Anting eskrima: . ========================================================================== Eskrima-Digest, serving the Internet since June 1994. 1100 members strong! Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and Martial Arts Resource The premier internet discussion forum devoted to Filipino Martial Arts. Provided in memory of Mangisursuro Michael G. Inay (1944-2000). http://InayanEskrima.com Replying to this message will NOT unsubscribe you. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe eskrima-digest" (no quotes) in the body (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. To send e-mail to this list use eskrima@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com See the Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) FAQ and the online search engine for back issues of the Eskrima-Digest at http://MartialArtsResource.com Mabuhay ang eskrima! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 8:20:57 PST Subject: eskrima: 15th Annual ASLET Training Seminar 15th Annual ASLET (American Society of Law Enforcement Training) International Seminar Law Enforcement Education & Technology Exposition Anchorage, Alaska February 19-23, 2002 Including: Close Quarters Tactics Aboard Boeing 737 Physical and Pshchological Tactics Needed to Survive Hostage Situations Psychological Profiling of Criminal and Terrorist Offenders Post Traumatic Incident Recovery Procedures Hundreds of Exhibits Roundtable Discussions and Plenary Sessions info@aslet.org www.aslet.org Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: "John Cipkar" Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 11:12:31 -0600 Subject: eskrima: RE: Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #529 Sparring Gear Try I & I Sport Supply for headgear. They have a web store and quality gear. Regards, John Cipkar ------------------------------ From: Kristine Strasburger Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 13:44:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: eskrima: why all the padding now? Mr. Saturno, In answer to your question >>> What is the big deal with "full battle dress" sparring? I guess I still am not convinced. Back in the 60's and 70's when the FMA revolution was taking place (mainly in Northern California) the Filipino immigrants who were teaching the men who are now the guros and backbone of the FMA world today did not conduct class with hockey gloves, fencing helmets, and sticks that looked like T-ball bats. The worst contact that anybody was subjected to was the occasional misplaced hit in flow-sparring that caught an unwary knuckle or hand once in awhile. I guess times change, but if it were a good idea then, they would surely have broken out the gear. No disrespect to anybody (I really mean that) but I guess I would like to be convinced somehow. Another 2-cents worth of my opinion . . . R. Saturno, Jr.<<<< I think the most important factor that anyone who has a school, even a backyard school, must contend with is the shift in people's attitude toward litigation these days. It is true that serious injuries from unprotected training are not as common as people fear they are. This is especially the case when a person is able to regularly train under the teaching of a competent Guro. A good teacher knows his or her students, and is able to push them to the next level as they are able to go there. There aren't as many injuries because they have been trained to keep their body parts out of the way. We did not use a great deal of padding at the school where I learned my eskrima. The times we did use some were primarily to give us a chance to learn how to respond after receiving a hard blow to the head. I don't care what anyone says to the contrary. There is no other way to train yourself to do the right thing after getting your block knocked off (like say, if you got hit from behind without warning) unless you go through the practicing of it. So our headgear was minimal to allow for the blow to be felt. Back then none of the students would even consider sueing over an injury (unless maybe it was obviously due to gross negligence, and was something major). Today, however, the general mindset of the populace is quite different. At my school I require my students to own their own set of protective gear as they progress in their learning. I do this to protect myself from litigation. I also carrry insurance, and have them sign a liability waiver, but this is not enough to protect me if I were to be sued. This being said, I do give my students the opportunity to learn the old way, and in fact, that is what I emphasize. I require the students to have all the necessary protective gear, but I don't really give them the opportunity to use it very much because I give them the foundation they need in the basics before having them move on to the more advanced stuff. They learn that they don't really need padding because their eskrima works. Not only this, but a great deal of my teaching philosophy is based on developing the warrior mindset. That means learning to keep on going without letting anyone know that you just got hurt. Before I take someone on as a student I make sure that they understand the pain factor involved in training well in the FMA's so there are no surprises. What seems to be the case these days, with the increased popularity of the FMA's, and the number of seminars being offered everywhere, is that there are a lot of people trying to learn FMA's without the benefit of being the full-time, in-person student of a competent Guro. Instead, you have people trying to piece together bits and pieces that they have picked up at seminars and through books and tapes. They work out with whoever they can as much as possible, but they do not have the benefit of personal, ongoing instruction from a competent teacher. I am not criticizing anyone who is in this position, just stating my observations. I know that for many people they are doing the best they can with the available resources, and relocating to train is just not an option for them. The bad thing about padding is that it allows you to develop bad habits that you could never get away with if you were without the padding. The good thing about a little bit of padding is that it gives you a chance to go all out, and have someone go all out against you, and not have the battle end in a matter of seconds. It is good to have that experience every once in awhile. I really feel the key to that is using as little padding as possible, and not using padded sticks at all so that you can feel where you are weak. Sometimes your weaknesses only surface against full-power strikes. Respectfully, Kristine Strasburger Heartland School of Eskrima and Self-Defense __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 19:29:05 PST Subject: eskrima: Anting-Anting Interesting little book... Anting-Anting Stories and Other Strange Tales of the Filipinos, by Sargent Kayme. First published in 1901, reprinted in 1969. ISBN 8369-3022-3. Eleven short stories. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com ------------------------------ From: Ray Terry Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 10:02:29 PST Subject: eskrima: . ------------------------------ End of Inayan_Eskrima/FMA-Digest V8 #530 **************************************** To unsubscribe from the eskrima-digest send the command: unsubscribe eskrima-digest -or- unsubscribe eskrima-digest your.old@address in the BODY (top line, left justified) of a "plain text" e-mail addressed to majordomo@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com. Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2001: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11!