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Question about a quote (Ray Terry) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: EGJundis@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 23:47:35 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Manila Travel Log Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I forgot many things: the fruit, meat, and food stands right on the street where buses, jeepneys, cars, and motorcycles zoom inches away from where you bargain for 5 mangoes, or the stench of open air sewage flowing leisurely by with refuse and excrement, the burn of breathing in the raw pollution of Manila traffic on EDSA, the itch of trapped sweat under your skin not prepared for the sudden onset of heat and humidity, or the overwhelm of hundreds of people walking on each block (the closest I have felt to this is standing in line to get my ticket checked at a Jets/Raiders play-off game with all of the side comments and pushing of exuberant Raider fans), then there is the complexity of language that to my ear is familiar yet unintelligible, or the surprise of how far your dollar really goes. That was my first three days. Day 2 I took a taxi to go visit my godfather across town. It's the equivalent of going from downtown San Francisco to Daly City. It cost three dollars. For lunch I had grilled gindara (sea bass) I had the neck portion of the Filet which in Japan is considered a delicacy. The meal came with rice and is cooked in front of you. I also ordered a side dish of Laing (sautéed taro leaves in coconut milk with fresh chopped chili pepper). The whole meal cost less than 60 pesos and I got 50.25 pesos to my US dollar. I've paid $17 dollars in the US for less fish than I received. Papa, that's what I call my godfather, is Yakan and from Basilan. He's the head coach for the PhilSilat Team. He wasn't there when I arrived, but I got to hang out with his colleagues at the PhilSilat headquarters in the Rizal Memorial Sports Complex. For those who are interested it's near the Football Stadium dugout across from the new Athletes Lounge. They were both Muslims who had done their Hadj to Mecca and had worked as oversea labor in Saudi Arabia. Imagine two proud Tausug warriors from Jolo in the Sulu Archipelago now teaching Sports Silat while telling me they still keep the real stuff secret and for their families. It was interesting to hear the pride in their heritage while talking about working and raising a family in the modern Philippines. They had a guest, a sports reporter from Malaysia. We talked about the Christian Filipinos who form the majority of the National Ohlaraga Sports team and why they train, while delving into tangents of other martial arts, and life in America and Malaysia. It was dark when I left them; I started to walk while bats chased down flying bugs above. Ever present as I left the compound was the intense screaming of Basketball fans. It sounded like an American playoff game. I walked intentionally without a clear goal: I think I needed to take in Manila. I walked for six hours and got lost three times: once in Quiapo, again in some side streets near UST, and finally in some side neighborhood off Timog near East Avenue. I had a map with me the whole time but didn't use it until I got home until to see where I had been. I had walked from just south of Ermita to Matalino Street (Where I am staying) near Quezon City Hall. I never felt it was wise to pull out a street map while walking where I was walking. I'm a city boy at heart and walking city streets at night is a familiar past time. I learned early via my father's guidance how to case the blocks ahead looking for possible ambushes and especially how to read the bodies of those who are reading you. The only time I truly felt fear was on a few darkened streets where only one visible lookout was watching me, though rarely directly. This was always a strange contrast to the other areas of Manila bustling with pedestrians. Once near home while walking in the Park-like area around the Quezon City Circle I had an individual attempt to stare me down and approach me. I choose to keep on my intended path, nod an acknowledgment, and keep on my way. I used an approach I learned from several of my silat instructors for increasing my rearward peripheral vision: look at the ground and you rear ward vision increases another 90 degrees. My father also taught me this years ago when trying to teach me Basketball; he said it was especially useful when you are stopped and double teamed. As I passed him, he stopped to pause, took another two steps towards me and then faded back. I looked back and he turned away. I guess I'm not an appetizing target. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry Subject: Re: [Eskrima] Tony Cecchine To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 7:51:05 PST Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Via his personal, private, message board, the word is out the Tony Cecchine, > Catchwrestling instructor, is ill. Apparently the connective tissue is > breaking down around his spine. He is also having seizures, and sometimes > unable to walk or speak. He has been transferred to three different > hospitals. The source of the malady is unknown according to his students and > training buddies at the Tool and Die Shop. > I will get an address to send cards to or be supportive. Tony lives in > Chicago. This is indeed very sad news. Tony seems like a real class act. Please let us know of any new, and hopefully favorable, developments. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 7:52:20 PST Subject: [Eskrima] non-digestified ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net With the new format of the Eskrima list it should now be easy to open subscription up to those that would like a non-digestified version. i.e. the msgs would come individually instead of bunched together in an issue of the digest. The last time we checked into this (a couple years ago) only a handful of people were interested in that. But it is time to check again. If you'd like that type of subscription please drop me a private email at the addr below. Thanks. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Ingmund Forberg" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 23:27:24 Subject: [Eskrima] Question about a quote Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Someone wrote a quote a while back that went something like "An armed society is a polite society". Does anyone remember the exact quote and who it was attributed to? Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. --__--__-- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 21:58:07 -0800 From: Bill McG To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Yin-Yaw, Bruce Lee Remix Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net 1. I received this email recently. I think this fellow might be looking for the Yin Yaw group.Please email him directly. "Hello, My name is deo salvacion im 40 years old and im looking for a filipino karate school. I have 3 years experience in thai boxing but this alone doesnt satisfy me anymore. So if you have some idea where i can enroll or train a filipino karate club please response at my e-mail address at www.surigao61@hotmail.com Sir, thank you very much for your trouble. Your consideration is highly appreciated. Maraming Salamat Deo Salvacion" 2. Here is a cool web page with pics and lines from Bruce Lee movies that you can remix. Interesting technology. http://www.skop.com/brucelee/brucelee.htm Regards, Tuhon Bill McGrath --__--__-- Message: 6 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 20:50:29 PST Subject: [Eskrima] Question about a quote Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net > Someone wrote a quote a while back that went something like "An armed > society is a polite society". Does anyone remember the exact quote and who > it was attributed to? Robert A. Heinlein in The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress. Other well known works of Heinlein's are Starship Troopers and Stranger in a Strange Land. Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest