Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #76 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. last on chokes (q) 2. [The_Dojang] Is this good news? (Ray Terry) 3. Off Topic: Truth (Meghan Gardner) 4. new domain name added (Nate Defensor) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "q" To: Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 22:47:09 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] last on chokes Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net < Steve Steve, This is only the tip of the iceberg. Training method is a poor substitute for "fighting". There are so many factors. Think about how false your own training probably is. 1) do you train on a nice level concrete floor or how about with mats? 2) have you considered the adrenal state absent from 99% of trainng method? Dog Bros for example see this as so critical that it appears to be a primary tenent for them, thus the moniker..."higher conciousness from harder contact?" Crafty will have to comment. Choking your training partner out in the safety of your home dojo then runningaround to revive him is about as fake as not choking him in the first place. <> Sorry Ray I do not agree. I do not advocate choking out for anyone of any age at anytime except when you have no other option. CPR is a basic First Aid process learned by the lowest in the chain of lifesavers. It concentrates on Airway and Circulation as the First to assess on an injured person. Choking out attacks one or both. Not a good idea. I have no problem choking until the tap or weaving in and out of various neck manipulations with and without the gi. I have no problem in higher cooperative levels of agression. I don't believe in training until unconciousness. Regards, Carlton H. Fung, D.D.S. Torrance, Ca. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 7:27:35 PST Subject: [Eskrima] [The_Dojang] Is this good news? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Cross posting from the_dojang. Forwarded message: I'm a bit out of the loop in North American entertainment and pop culture, living as I do in Seoul. I saw this on MSN tonight and am not sure how to react... http://www.msnbc.com/news/713677.asp?pne=msn A Martial Arts reality show by the producer of Survivor? Anthony Boyd www.stormpages.com/haidonggumdo _______________________________________________ The_Dojang mailing list The_Dojang@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/the_dojang --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Meghan Gardner" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 10:57:47 -0500 Subject: [Eskrima] Off Topic: Truth Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Last night I saw the movie "A Beautiful Mind". I was inspired to write the following to my children in the journal I keep. It has some tenuous connections to self defense... but I thought that posting it here might inspire some good discourse. May your universe continue to expand... Meghan Gardner Guard Up, Inc. Burlington, MA USA www.guardup.com 781.270.4800 "Always carry love in your heart... and a knife in your pocket." me _________________________________________________________________________ The single greatest hurdle between our position and our goal is the adherence to a mindset. Now don’t be quick to take this sentence out of context and proclaim that I am condoning the abandonment of ethics. I am simply stating a fact. Very few instances of conflict will involve the nonexistence of resources, the absence of time, the lack of weapons or a completely hostile environment. Tactics are rarely limited to two options. But they certainly can be when faced with the dilemma of compromising an ethic, a reservation, a prejudice or a sense of honor. We often weigh the method of achieving the goal as equal or greater value as that of our success in obtaining the goal. I state this idea separate from judgment of right or wrong. But it can help us to better understand the situation. The fewer inhibitions our enemy has, the more options they have available. And the more we have, the fewer choices are available to us. The great difficulty arises when we must weigh the price of failure to obtain our goal with the price of compromising our mindset. For some situations the choice may be easy… when our own life is on the line, we will often forgo many inhibitions to secure our safety or the safety of loved ones. But how easily are those lines crossed for lesser outcomes? This illustrates what I call the “Great Gray” of life. Governments, religions, races and individuals have all been wiped out of existence based upon an opposing mindset. Interesting that so many collectives have a commandment that one should not kill another… yet they do so quite readily when another’s mindset varies in certain degrees. This commandment becomes compromised because we view that, on some level, our way of being is threatened. The degree of threat is determined by our point of view. The thing that confuses me is how often I hear of people speaking about “the truth”. What they are really proclaiming is their own view of the truth. And their view that another’s truth is actually false. So where is “the answer”? If we abstain from judgment, we end up allowing certain atrocities. Are there base, universal truth(s) that should apply to all? If so, what is it about these universal truths that make them rise above the view of another who might not hold them in similar regard? If we consistently second (and third, fourth, etc.) guess every judgment we make, how will we ever function? While we ponder multiple perspectives, another may be actively moving against us. And yet, failure to do so may limit our options. I find that my greatest challenge in life is to step outside my own view and try… I mean really, truly try…to see something from another’s view. I’m not talking about a cursory glance… about seeing their view as a distasteful option that I might take if I were not “the better person”… but about really taking that stride from my place to theirs… embracing their existence long enough to feel, however briefly, the spark of their own righteousness. In this, I can see my place from their position. But then comes the moment of judgment. I must draw upon my ethics and make my choice. And yet, I may, on occasion, find that my internal code has been slightly modified for the experience. Maybe understanding another view pushed another leaf to sprout upon the branch of my knowledge. To another, however, it may appear that my roots have shriveled and I have lost my ground… my sense of what is “right” in life. The problem is not the enemy outside our door… the goal of self-preservation is never wrong… it is the method (theirs and our own) upon which we cast our judgment. In the end, this is the greatest conflict of all: To judge. It is our salvation and our death. We cannot abandon it and yet we should never leave it unquestioned. Thus we are left with the knowledge that what is right to our eyes today may be “less right” or even “wrong” when today is a memory of the past. The simple black and white of righteousness, which made our navigation through life so easy to interpret, will dull into a hazy gray of confusion the morning you decide to truly seek to understand another’s view. I do not envy you that day. But how can you grow without it? --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Nate Defensor" To: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 13:39:07 -0600 Subject: [Eskrima] new domain name added Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net domain name: defensormethod.com website: www.defensormethod.com also linked to: www.kalieskrima.com For upcoming seminars: www.defensormethod.com/events.htm Seminar Schedule: March 3, 2002 Sunday 11:30am - 3:30pm at Ben's Loft, 2705 S. Archer, Chicago, IL 60608 Contact:Ben Abd Phone:312-528-0221 Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago in Collaboration with "The Corp" presents a 4 hour seminar: "Stick and Knife Seminar Part II" Topics: * Intermediate Single Stick Techniques, Disarms, Takedowns, Chokes, Counters and Drills. * Intermediate Long and Short Stick techniques, Drills, Disarms, and Defenses * Intermediate Knife drills, Defenses, Attacks, Sensitivity Drills, and Maneuvers. Will include short lesson in Balisong Manipulations Part II. An exciting 4-Hour seminar with Nate Defensor Cost: $30 March 16, 2002 Saturday 3pm - 5:30pm at Hackney's Reality Combat 800 W. Lake Street, Suite 108 Roselle, IL 60172 Contact: Jason Brigham 773 486 6550 Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago in Collaboration with "Hackney's Reality Combat" presents a 2.5 Hour Seminar with Nate Defensor Topics: *Single Stick Drills & Concepts, Solo Baston Partner Drills, Sumbrada *Double Stick Drills Cost: $20 March 30, 2002 Saturday 3pm - 5:30pm at Hackney's Reality Combat 800 W. Lake Street, Suite 108 Roselle, IL 60172 Contact: Jason Brigham 773 486 6550 Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago in Collaboration with "Hackney's Reality Combat" presents a 2.5 Hour Seminar with Nate Defensor Topics: *Knife & Short Stick Drills, Knife Concepts, Knife Sparring *Pocket Stick Drills, Balisong Manipulations Cost: $20 April 13, 2002 Saturday 3pm - 5:30pm at Hackney's Reality Combat 800 W. Lake Street, Suite 108 Roselle, IL 60172 Contact: Jason Brigham 773 486 6550 Filipino Kali-Eskrima Academy of Chicago in Collaboration with "Hackney's Reality Combat" presents a 2.5 Hour Seminar with Nate Defensor Topics: *Panatukan Drills, Warm-Ups, Footwork, Doble Baston Solo Exercises *Hubad-Lubad *Tapi-Tapi Cost: $20 May 18-19, 2002 Maryland Weekend Retreat . For details email Guro Steve Yarnall at yarnall.sr@worldnet.att.net --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest