Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:02:32 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #105 - 5 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #104 - 3 msgs (Ernest Westbrook) 2. Ring of Fire 2002- LAS VEGAS (Ray Terry) 3. changes ? (Ray Terry) 4. Mata Sa Bagyo - Cabales Serrada Escrima Seminar by Guro Carlito Bonjoc (Dave Lee) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Ernest Westbrook" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:49:48 +0000 Subject: [Eskrima] Re: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #104 - 3 msgs Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net  AnimalMac@aol.com, wrote: > >Now maybe you have walked into far more select and realistic schools than I >have, in that case, I'm impressed. Most of the ones I walk into have a habit >of saying things "I know what self-defense means" when you bring the subject >up...and then they proceed to practice moves that will get them charged with >-- and likely convicted of -- manslaughter. That's if they work...but >that's another can of worms. > >Of course maybe it helped that I comped my attorney through one of my knife >courses and had him tell me where I was stepping on my dick with the advice I >was giving. It's something other instructors might want to consider doing. >  Well, Animal, I guess that I have been in a couple of "...far more select and realistic school..." because in 2 of the schools that I trained in here in the States, the instructors did teach us about the laws with regard to use of force, self defense and weapons carries.  Both stated clearly that there two lines for self defense, physical and legal.  The first occurred in a matter of seconds and the latter took months to years to resolve. And you are absolutely correct about what some people are teaching as self defense... it will get someone jailed for manslauther or murder (my addition).  There are a lot of tough people out here, but not all of the tough people are mentally and intellectually stout.  There is a lot of bad advise that gets passed along as gospel.  People need to do their own independent research when it comes to the laws of their own state with regard to self defense.  As a general rule of thumb, self defense can legally occur when an opponent has the means, ability, proximity and opportunity to seriously hurt, main or kill you.  Note that I am refering to a *general rule* not specific law(s).  EACH person must learn the relevent laws of his or her own state in order to have a working knowledge of what behaviors might be acceptable in a court of law, where they live. EBrook THE Wicked Western Warlock    ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net, policedo@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:17:08 PST Subject: [Eskrima] Ring of Fire 2002- LAS VEGAS Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Forwarded message: Selamat All The Ring of Fire 2002 will be in Las Vegas Nevada, Palace station Hotel and Casino. We will mail out the registration this week. Dead Line for early registration, register by June 1, 2002 - $225 After June 1, 2002 the camp fee will increase by $50 Instructors Guru Dan Inosanto Pak Victor de Thouars Guru Bob Vanatta Guru Steven Plinck Guru Andre KnustGraichen Sifu Janet Gee Including in the Camp Fee is the Saturday Night Sit down dinner Please be aware, the dinner you must have your dinner ticket with you If you have registered then you can find the appropiate tabel with your name. Should you wish, extra dinner tickets to accompjny you Then please indicate with your registration, the cost for the extra dinner ticket is $30 per person, include that with your regular registration. At the registration table, when you have registered early you will receive a welcome packet with the camp information. Within the packet inside will be your formal invitation to the dinner with your dinner ticket. We will have demonstrations by many of Students and Instructors alike For the first time ever, Pak Vic will demonstrate in Public the way Pentjak Silat Serak hold the Siku Siku or Tjabang weapon. The right way, in attacking as well as defending. Many of misnomers about the Siku Siku and how the working are shown in the past and sometimes not at all. Hotel Room: Our School has blocked of 20 rooms, In participating the Ring of Fire you can call the Palace Station, Hotel and Casino Reservation 1 800 634-3101 Please indicate and identify yourself as VDT Academy/Ring of Fire Participant you will have the group rate for $45 plus applicable taxes. email us vdtacademy@aol.com should you need extra registration forms or call us at (562) 920-0472 FAX (562) 920-1827 Hormat Pak Vic --__--__-- Message: 3 From: Ray Terry To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:39:35 PST Subject: [Eskrima] changes ? Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net For those teaching out there... How has your approach to teaching FMA or MA changed over the years? What do you do differently now from years previous? What experience, or ahh-haa, brought about that change? Ray Terry raymail@hpwsrt.cup.hp.com --__--__-- Message: 4 From: "Dave Lee" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:05:45 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Mata Sa Bagyo - Cabales Serrada Escrima Seminar by Guro Carlito Bonjoc Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net The attachment of the seminar flyer was not included... so therefor here is the following information that is on the flyer... Cabales Serrada Escrima Founder: The late Grandmaster Angel Cabales Successor: Grandmaster Vincent Cabales Mata Sa Bagyo CSE Chief Instructor: Guro Carlito Bonjoc Jr. Escrima is a Filipino stick fighting martial art of self-defense, consisting of a medium to close range combat style utilizing a short to medium length stick or blade (18 to 21 inches). The use of abaniko strikes (fanning), constant checking, and highly effective reversing and passing techniques makes Serrada a very powerful system. **Filipino Martial Art of Self-Defense Stick Fighting Seminar** WHEN: Saturday, April 27th 2002 WHERE: Santa Barbara Martial Arts Academy 2610 De La Vina St. Santa Barbara, CA 93105 (805) 687-7488 ~ Michael Mac Donald TIME: 9:30 AM Registration & Check-In ~ 10:00 AM - 5:00 PM Class Instruction (1hr break) COST: $40.00 per person (group of 4 or more) – pre-register on or before April 15, 2002 $50.00 per person (individual) – pre-register on or before April 15, 2002 $50.00 per person (group of 4 or more) – pre-register on or before April 22, 2002 $60.00 per person (individual) – pre-register on or before April 22, 2002 After April 22, 2002… $80.00 per person cash only accepted at the door. * Pre-registering is strongly advised. * Due to risk of injury, a liability waiver must be signed at check-in. For more info contact David Lee (805) 570-9163 * E-Mail: dr2spike@hotmail.com * Check us out online: www.bagyo.net *Absolutely no video or audio recording permitted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send Certified check or money order payable to: David Lee * Santa Barbara Martial Arts Academy* 2610 De La Vina St. - Santa Barbara, CA 93105 Name_____________________________ Address____________________________ City_________________ State_____ ZIP__________ Phone_________________ Group? 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