Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 02:03:42 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #106 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Last interview with Suro Mike Inay (Patrick Christian) 2. Law and Self-Defense (Freddy Concepcion) 3. Changes In Teaching (Musilat@aol.com) 4. RE: Changes In Teaching (Mike Casto) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 11:36:44 -0500 From: "Patrick Christian" To: Subject: [Eskrima] Last interview with Suro Mike Inay Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello everyone. Just wanted to let you know that an interview done with Suro Mike Inay shortly before he passed is now on our organizations web site (www.inayaneskrima.com). It is the last known interview with Grandmaster Inay. You can find it under the "Info" link, and then "NEWS, EVENTS and ACTIVITIES". From there click on the "Articles about Inayan Eskrima" link. The interview is titled: "A conversation with a Grandmaster". You can skip all that is you wish to go directly to the interview by following this link: http://inayaneskrima.com/index.cfm?method=news&submethod= article&id=94 I hope all of you enjoy it as much as I did. Patrick N. Christian www.inayaneskrima.com christian@inayaneskrima.com Inayan Systems International --__--__-- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 10:51:50 -0700 From: Freddy Concepcion To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Law and Self-Defense Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Knowledged of local laws regarding self-defense is not going to help martial artists unless they first know themselves. Most of the time it is the "ego" and the "pride" that triggers excessive reaction to a perceive attack. When this happen, the thinking process is out the window. You don't think anymore but react. Most of the time verbal arguments get escalated into punching and kicking because of pride and egos. Know yourself and avoid situations where your ego will get in the way of sound judgement. Freddy Concepcion --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:07:31 EST From: Musilat@aol.com To: Subject: [Eskrima] Changes In Teaching Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Hello All, In the past few years I have chosen to emphasize the understanding of concepts over the accumulation of techniques. I feel that after you have a solid technical foundation, you need to examine the techniques you know to see why they either do or do not work for you. Experimentation is key to the growth of the FMA...or any art for that matter. At some point I explain to my students that you can either be a preservationist or an artist. Both are cool. The choice is yours. I also point out to them that if you only practice the art as you've been taught, you are a practitioner of that art, not an artist. The founder of the art you practice is the artist. There is no crime in being a practitioner, I just feel that it's important to nurture creativity. I choose to teach this way because of my background in music. I view the drills and extended patterns in the FMA the same way I saw music theory when I was learning to play the guitar. You learn all can and then forget it and make music. If you wanna be in a copy band...cool. If you want to be an original, you have the tools for that as well. The FMA are really no different. It's up to you where you want to take it. Your thoughts... Respectfully, Steve Kohn Torrance, Ca. --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 21:25:24 -0600 From: Mike Casto Subject: RE: [Eskrima] Changes In Teaching To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I agree with the essence of your post. I'd personally expand it with the following: IMHO, it is possible to be both a preservationist and an artist. To continue your musical analogy ... classical musicians are "preservationists" ... they can also be "artists" ... each musician finds his/her own way to express themselves even if it's in the same piece of music. A high school pianist will likely play Beethoven's 5th with very little or no self expression involved in it ... they're just playing the notes. Liberace, though, could take the same notes and breathe a very unique essence into them and make it into art. I think that, whether one prefers to stick to the traditions or set off on his/her own path that it's possible to find self expression and be an "artist." And, just as I think it's possible to be an "artist" using the traditions as the pallet. I think it's also possible for people to leave the traditions and *not* be an artist ... just a "technique collector". Collecting a pile of bricks and calling it a house without any consideration of using mortar. In fact, I've seen this at least as much, if not more, than the traditional artist getting mired in the tradition. Mike -----Original Message----- From: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net [mailto:eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net]On Behalf Of Musilat@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 6:08 PM To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Changes In Teaching Hello All, In the past few years I have chosen to emphasize the understanding of concepts over the accumulation of techniques. I feel that after you have a solid technical foundation, you need to examine the techniques you know to see why they either do or do not work for you. Experimentation is key to the growth of the FMA...or any art for that matter. At some point I explain to my students that you can either be a preservationist or an artist. Both are cool. The choice is yours. I also point out to them that if you only practice the art as you've been taught, you are a practitioner of that art, not an artist. The founder of the art you practice is the artist. There is no crime in being a practitioner, I just feel that it's important to nurture creativity. I choose to teach this way because of my background in music. I view the drills and extended patterns in the FMA the same way I saw music theory when I was learning to play the guitar. You learn all can and then forget it and make music. If you wanna be in a copy band...cool. If you want to be an original, you have the tools for that as well. The FMA are really no different. It's up to you where you want to take it. Your thoughts... Respectfully, Steve Kohn Torrance, Ca. _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest