Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:47:10 -0800 (PST) From: eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net Subject: Eskrima digest, Vol 9 #115 - 4 msgs X-Mailer: Mailman v2.0.8 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Sender: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net Errors-To: eskrima-admin@martialartsresource.net X-BeenThere: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net X-Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net List-Help: List-Post: X-Subscribed-Address: rterry@idiom.com List-Subscribe: List-Id: Inayan Eskrima / FMA discussion forum, the premier FMA forum on the Internet. 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Today's Topics: 1. Garimot Tres Puntos. (GatPuno@aol.com) 2. Bomb Scares (Marc Denny) 3. Percussion (Stephen Lamade) 4. Percussion (Eric Taimanglo) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: GatPuno@aol.com Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:00:22 EST To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Subject: [Eskrima] Garimot Tres Puntos. Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net In a message dated 3/28/02 5:06:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, eskrima-request@martialartsresource.net writes: > > Hello everyone: > > May i inquire on the relationship of the Tres Puntos > (From Batangas System Basic Balisong) as taught in the > Garimot system with the more familiar Dos Puntas of > most Visayan systems/styles? > > Thank you very much. > > Yours truly, > > Hello Kenjo, I am not familiar with the Dos Puntas in Visayan, but I will give you a little bit of the Tres Puntos background in Batanggas. My Grandfather Francisco "Ico" Salazar (father of my mother) was born and raised in Rosario, Batangas. He learn the art of Tres Puntos (Three Points) sometimes open heard or called Tres Kantos (Three Corner) on his early age in Malvar Batangas where his father used to work in the Catholic Church as Treasurer and Music Teacher. According from him the Tres Puntos is the most common named used in Arnis, Eskrima, Estokada System in Batangas to cover or hide the true meaning of the Batangas art of Empty hand and weaponry, especially the used of their own famous "Balisong". The footwork, the cutting, and thrusting pattern is copied after the triagle shape form. The defensive and offensive techniques theory of this style is based on three corner of a triangle. It's simply practical, direct and effective arts. Most Batangas style is originate from this style, I would claimed that this the mother style of all style in Batangas or has a Tres Puntos influence in somehow. My Grandfather moved to Siniloan, Laguna 1894, and he is responsible for bringing the Tres Puntos Eskrima in Siniloan. He taught my three Uncle, Lazaro, Engracio and Francisco V. Salazar XIII, my dad married the youngest daughter and learned the art of Tres Puntos from his brother in law "Lazaro "Aro" Salazar known as Balisong Killer of Siniloan, Laguna on the 1960's. Note: But I believed all FMA is related to each other, shared the same theories, and weaponry. Some of us might not accept that, but that is the truth. No arts is better than the other arts, no arts is higher than the others, we the practitioner make the difference for each arts, we just have to remember, once you reach the top, there only one way are going to happen, one way or another is to go drop down. All of us is going to be old, weak. New kids on the blocks will carried the torch for us. There strong and protective, but years by their going to grow old again and weak again, that why we just need to make sure that the art is learned right and passed right to others that the only way the arts will survived for thousands of years and live long. I am sure the Visayan arts of Dos Puntas is also a beautiful arts, and well worth learning to. Salamat at Gumagalang (Thank you with Respect) Gat Puno Abon "Garimot" Baet Laguna Arnis Fedration International US Harimaw Buno Federation Hilot Research Center USA --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Marc Denny" To: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 06:19:32 -0800 Subject: [Eskrima] Bomb Scares Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net More Questions Than Answers With Manila Bomb Scare 21 March 2002 Summary A group labeling itself the Indigenous Federal State Army is claiming responsibility for a series of bomb scares in Manila. The group is calling for the division of the Philippines into three states: one for Muslims, one for Christians and one for indigenous peoples. The demands appear dubious, as does the very existence of the group, which seems in actuality to be a cover for another agenda. Analysis A group calling itself the Indigenous Federal State Army is claiming responsibility for a series of bomb scares in the Philippines. Six bombs have been found in Manila since March 18, though each lacked critical components and local police say they were not intended to explode. Instead the bombs have been found with messages calling for the Philippines to divide into three federal states: one indigenous, one Muslim and another Christian. According to Philippine media and police reports, the first bombs were found March 18 in the Makati business district of Manila. The first, found at 11:05 p.m., was made from a 60-mm mortar shell and placed in a brown paper envelope in the median of Ayala Avenue in front of the Prudential Bank. The second, made from a 40-mm grenade, was found nearby on the corner of Sen. Gil Puyat Avenue and Don Chino Roces Avenue near the Commonwealth Foods building. The third and fourth bombs were found early March 20 in MetroStar Rail Transit stations. At 5:15 a.m., a security guard found a package containing a grenade, a digital watch and batteries at the southbound pedestrian bridge of MRT Ortigas station. Half an hour later, another device, comprised of two grenades and a digital timer, was found in a stairwell at MRT Kamuningh station. Two additional bombs -- one found just after 12:00 AM March 21 at the Light Rail Transit station in Malate, Manila. The other was found in the early hours of March 21 near the Bonifacio Monument in Caloocan City, Manila. Both bombs were similar to the others in that they were lacking key components and thus designed not to explode. They have also been credited to the Indigenous Federal State Army. The Indigenous Federal State Army claimed responsibility for the incidents, leaving papers with each bomb calling for the federal division of the Philippines. However, the demands of the IFSA -- and the existence of the group itself -- are dubious. If the Philippines were divided by religion and ethnicity, the Christian state would have nearly 92 percent of the population, the Muslim state would have another 4 percent and the indigenous state would have less than 3 percent. Instead, the campaign appears to be a front that presses another agenda by sowing fear, or at least confusion, in Manila. The list of suspects is long, including Muslim rebels, communist rebels, supporters of former President Joseph Estrada, even the current Philippine government or military. Muslim rebel groups such as the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), the Abu Sayyaf or the Moro National Liberation Front are all looking for greater autonomy or even total independence for Muslims in the southern Philippines, and each may have cause to threaten the government. However, Muslim separatists and militants have not shied away from using real explosives in the past, even in Manila's metropolitan districts. The communist New People's Army is also high on the list of suspects, and negotiations between the NPA and government are currently stalled. Yet here again, it seems odd that the NPA would plant bombs that were intentionally designed to fail. Both the NPA and the Muslim MILF have denied responsibility. Other less obvious, but perhaps more likely, suspects include various political interest groups. Stories have long circulated in the Philippines about supporters of former president Estrada who were threatening bombings to pressure the government to let him go or even to bring him back to power. Supporters of the current government of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, who was Estrada's vice president, could be stoking these rumors by planting false bombs. Other possibilities include government elements creating a false scare to help press new anti-terrorism legislation through Congress or, even more conspiratorially, to give an excuse for implementing martial law. In addition, with several thousand U.S. troops heading to the Philippines for Balikatan exercises on the northern island of Luzon in April, domestic or foreign interests could be trying to undermine the current security situation and create more chaos for U.S. forces to suppress in the country. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Stephen Lamade" To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:06:56 Subject: [Eskrima] Percussion Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net Those interested in Filipino percussion music from the South might try locating: Philippine gong music from Lanao , New York : Lyrichord [197?]. I have a copy that I would be happy to reproduce at cost. See also the following website for more information about folk music from Mindanao,Palawan and Sulu: http://members.aol.com/TaraCelest/ These folks may also have recordings of their work. Best, Steve Lamade San Miguel Eskrima _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. --__--__-- Message: 4 To: Eskrima@martialartsresource.net Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:04:09 -0800 From: "Eric Taimanglo" Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) Subject: [Eskrima] Percussion Reply-To: eskrima@martialartsresource.net I have used percussion to great effect in carenza and fighting... the industrial band called Neurosis had a album called " Enemy Of the Sun", which had a killer percussion track that lasted about 12 minutes long. "The Drummers Of Burundi" is a good one too...the cd cover depicts a african drummer who looks like he is having a intense drumming experience. Taiko drumming is another great sound to accompany a workout. Yet another alternative is Kulintang (native filipino music), and there's the Indonesian gamelan as well...in any case, practicing to music is definitely something to look into. See Dave Matthews Band live or win a signed guitar http://r.lycos.com/r/bmgfly_mail_dmb/http://win.ipromotions.com/lycos_020201/splash.asp --__--__-- _______________________________________________ Eskrima mailing list Eskrima@martialartsresource.net http://martialartsresource.net/mailman/listinfo/eskrima Old digest issues are available via ftp://ftp.martialartsresource.com. Copyright 1994-2002: Ray Terry and the Martial Arts Resource Standard disclaimers apply. Remember 9-11! End of Eskrima Digest